Help the victims of Katrina!
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I'm wondering who these looters thing they are going to sell these "hot" electronic items to. WHo has electricity for miles around...or will have any for months? How can they get it out of the area? It just goes to show the mentality of these people. On the other hand, the people that are looting basic food and supplies to keep body and soul together...I think you gotta do what you gotta do. If the store is open, buy it, but it's not like any of these stores are going to open in the near future if they aren't already.
On the news this morning they are now numbering the death toll in New Orleans in the "thousands". That's not counting Mississippi.
On the news this morning they are now numbering the death toll in New Orleans in the "thousands". That's not counting Mississippi.
I think I have to agree with Clay on shooting the looters....most of them probably did plan on it ahead of time and now I hear they have stolen guns from some of the stores down there and are shooting at the police. In my opinion, they've made their desicion and in that accept the full consequences of their actions...and if that means getting shot in the act...so be it.
Personally, I think they should just clean things up as best they can and leave it under water. You have to be out of your mind to want to go back and risk such a thing happening again....and as a tax payer I don't want to have to bail these folks out again ! Sorry, I guess that isn't PC either.....but I'm not PC...I'm sensible.
Personally, I think they should just clean things up as best they can and leave it under water. You have to be out of your mind to want to go back and risk such a thing happening again....and as a tax payer I don't want to have to bail these folks out again ! Sorry, I guess that isn't PC either.....but I'm not PC...I'm sensible.
Shooting Looters
As I said before, I think I'm just about there. The problem is making sure the person you shoot is truly a looter. You have to make sure the person isn't carrying away their own stuff or the stuff of a relative. Running away from the place is probably a good sign.
If you shoot a the police, BANG, you're dead.
Shooting Prisoners
Nope, unless they were on death row anyway. (I don't know if there is capital punishment there.) A judge and jury did not sentence them to death, so now is not the time to kill them. After all, who knows what the crime may have been?
Rebuilding
I have always wondered why people who get flooded out just about every year always move back and tax dollars bail them out year after year. That does not make good sense to me. However, this is not something that happens every year.
I've listen to some reports that the city was seeking funds in 1960 to improve the levee system and to do a lot of other things. For a lot of reasons, something just did not get done. I have also read that for the last 2 years the Feds have told them the $$$ just weren't there, come back next year. Well, now we pay.
If the city can be rebuilt with an improvement on the water control systems, I say rebuild. New Orleans has a rich history and should not be lost. Plus, it will be good for the human spirit. Some things have a value beyond the $$$.
Best Wishes
clayt101, I am glad you got out and I hope for the best for you, your Dad, other relatives and frinds.
As I said before, I think I'm just about there. The problem is making sure the person you shoot is truly a looter. You have to make sure the person isn't carrying away their own stuff or the stuff of a relative. Running away from the place is probably a good sign.
If you shoot a the police, BANG, you're dead.Shooting Prisoners
Nope, unless they were on death row anyway. (I don't know if there is capital punishment there.) A judge and jury did not sentence them to death, so now is not the time to kill them. After all, who knows what the crime may have been?
Rebuilding
I have always wondered why people who get flooded out just about every year always move back and tax dollars bail them out year after year. That does not make good sense to me. However, this is not something that happens every year.
I've listen to some reports that the city was seeking funds in 1960 to improve the levee system and to do a lot of other things. For a lot of reasons, something just did not get done. I have also read that for the last 2 years the Feds have told them the $$$ just weren't there, come back next year. Well, now we pay.
If the city can be rebuilt with an improvement on the water control systems, I say rebuild. New Orleans has a rich history and should not be lost. Plus, it will be good for the human spirit. Some things have a value beyond the $$$.
Best Wishes
clayt101, I am glad you got out and I hope for the best for you, your Dad, other relatives and frinds.
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Emg said:
La is a beautiful place. N.O. is a history landmark of our country. And it's the home of many people who love it there. La hasn't dealt with a storm this bad since 92'. And that was hurricane Andrew. But it was no where near as destructive as Katrina.
If I grew up and lived in that area, I would probably like to go home.
Lila
Does anyone know the history of Seattle?
New Orleans could take a page out of Seattle's history book. Save some landmarks -- fill in the rest and stop living below sea level.
Of course not all areas could 'fill-in', but I wonder if this is a real possibility?
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New Orleans could take a page out of Seattle's history book. Save some landmarks -- fill in the rest and stop living below sea level.
Of course not all areas could 'fill-in', but I wonder if this is a real possibility?
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I read somewhere that NO was originally above sea level, and it has been sinking slowly since it was established. I doubt filling it in would do much good in the long run. Plus, all the water is going to saturate the area, it'll be unstable for many, many years.. NO is gone for good..
Perhaps I was a little harsh last night on the prisoners, but you know that a lot of them are now looting.
Yes, they have broken into the gun shops, now there have been shootings at the helicopters. Have you heard the saying it is better to rule in hell then serve in heaven....it came from some movie. Well, now these people have it, there gangs are in control.
Sooner or later the military is going to have to move in and go after the gangs.
BTW, I will let you know my situation. I am a single man, making around $35-40K...by no means rich, but I consider myself pretty well off.
On Sunday morning I knew what was going to happen, and got out asap with my mother, dog and cat. I wish I would have stayed another hour to get some of my parents paintings, but I don't think the looters will go after that. I am pretty sure that the bottom of my parents house is flooded, but the second floor should be fine. I was living with them.
Ironically, I was just about to buy a house, the closing was sept 5. I guess that's off. The irony is that I did not want to live in New Orleans because of my fear of hurricanes, but my parents / job location convinced me insurance would cover the loss.
I have arrainged for an apartment in Baton Rouge. I was lucky, and able to think on my feet pretty fast. It was acctually a demo apartment, so it is furnished with rental furniture.
I now think that there will be thousands dead.
As for the poverty stricken people that stayed, I believe that eventually, this large poplulation will be broken up and sent to cities and towns all across the country.
Yes, they have broken into the gun shops, now there have been shootings at the helicopters. Have you heard the saying it is better to rule in hell then serve in heaven....it came from some movie. Well, now these people have it, there gangs are in control.
Sooner or later the military is going to have to move in and go after the gangs.
BTW, I will let you know my situation. I am a single man, making around $35-40K...by no means rich, but I consider myself pretty well off.
On Sunday morning I knew what was going to happen, and got out asap with my mother, dog and cat. I wish I would have stayed another hour to get some of my parents paintings, but I don't think the looters will go after that. I am pretty sure that the bottom of my parents house is flooded, but the second floor should be fine. I was living with them.
Ironically, I was just about to buy a house, the closing was sept 5. I guess that's off. The irony is that I did not want to live in New Orleans because of my fear of hurricanes, but my parents / job location convinced me insurance would cover the loss.
I have arrainged for an apartment in Baton Rouge. I was lucky, and able to think on my feet pretty fast. It was acctually a demo apartment, so it is furnished with rental furniture.
I now think that there will be thousands dead.
As for the poverty stricken people that stayed, I believe that eventually, this large poplulation will be broken up and sent to cities and towns all across the country.
More thoughts...
New Orleans will be back, but not as large. Baton Rouge and Lafayette will become the major ports.
As for the location of New Orleans, when it wa settled, it was just thought that hey, this is a good location, On the Mississippi River and close to Lake Pontchatrain. They didn't know about Hurricanes occuring, or the fact that the land was sinking.
Here is the best situation for the Country and Louisiana. The Mississippi River has changed course many times, it is only man that kept it going through New Orleans. Left to nature, the Mississippi River would now go down the Atchafalia River to the gulf. The wetlands would be growing there, protecting that location from the hurricanes.
Well, now there is nothing left of New Orleans, hopefully insurance will allow for Lafayette / Baton Rouge to become the "New" New Orleans.
New Orleans will be back, but not as large. Baton Rouge and Lafayette will become the major ports.
As for the location of New Orleans, when it wa settled, it was just thought that hey, this is a good location, On the Mississippi River and close to Lake Pontchatrain. They didn't know about Hurricanes occuring, or the fact that the land was sinking.
Here is the best situation for the Country and Louisiana. The Mississippi River has changed course many times, it is only man that kept it going through New Orleans. Left to nature, the Mississippi River would now go down the Atchafalia River to the gulf. The wetlands would be growing there, protecting that location from the hurricanes.
Well, now there is nothing left of New Orleans, hopefully insurance will allow for Lafayette / Baton Rouge to become the "New" New Orleans.
125gJoe said:
One more thing before I go.
Did you now that about a hundred years ago Galviston was the largest city in Texas? It was destroyed by hurricane and everyone moved inland to Houston. (I may have my dates wrong)
