HR 669 : CONGRESSIONAL HEARING BANNING NONNATIVE SPECIES APRIL 23, 2009 ACTION NEEDED

I don't know all the specifics but this my broad understanding.

In Australia we have a list system for importing non-native animal species into the country, there is the 'approved for import' and 'not approved'. So basically if someone wants to bring a certain animal into the country it must be on the list, it must be declared and it is quarantined. I strongly support this system, and in my opinion it works. We are not deprived of a variety of animals to keep or, I feel, restricted in the animal keeping hobbies by these laws.

Sure it can be a little annoying that we can't get certain fish here, for example dwarf puffers, marine crustaceans, those danios that glow etc. But each species is assessed on its risks and a conclusion is made on whether it should be allowed in or not. And the potential for disaster with a 'high risk' species is something to be well and truly avoided. Here we have carp and tilapia (amongst many other species) that have gone feral which cost the country millions of dollars (and jobs).

I wouldn't support a total ban on imports, that seems uneccessary and heavy handed to me, BUT accessing individual species and restricting high risk ones seems totally acceptable to me. Its the longterm outlook that is important. Obviously this is something for Americans to judge but from someone living in a country with fairly stringent import restrictions, if the laws are fair and in the country's best interest then I believe they are a good thing.

A recent example.
A bid was made to import Savannah cats into the country. Due to the increased risk to native wildlife the cat was denied for import into the country. Being larger and with better hunting capabilities, it was deemed that it would pose a greater threat than the standard tabby so was not allowed in. But we can all still keep, import normal cats.
 
No more wet pets or other animals/mammals/critters. Another fine example of government screwing up society with their mediocrity and laziness.

If they are so worried about pathogenic or parasitic invasion, they will need to put a stop to all international travel as well. How stupid can you get??? After all there is no telling what bugs, etc may have come in on the trains, planes, and boats!!!

The bill isn't designed to protect against pathogens or some kind of an infection. its designed to protect the native species from encroachment of non native species which could lead to the extinction of native species.

ie: caulerpa algae of the coast of California.
 
so wait. what threat is this to us. will it get rid of a few species or almost all species of fish for pets?

uhh absolutely none. lmao. most everything we keep in this hobby are tropical species, which do not survive in most of the states in the wild.

I'm really surprised not a single person has gotten this here yet. really guys?

you think the importation of yellow tangs will stop because they might be set loos in ohio?...
 
anyone ever snag a carp? or seen purple loosestrife? caught oscars/cichlid/eurpean gar in florida? caught a eurasian ruff?stepped on a zebra muscle?seen a sea lamprey on lake trout? all of these are invasive species and most of them are destroying native habitats and whole economies. were quick to jump on this as we think about or hobby and the impact this legislation would have on it. the premise behind this is actually WAY OVERDUE. i have issues with wild caught fish. im sure most importers (at least i hope) have ways of collecting with out damaging ecosystems. But i do know a man who used to collect marine animals with dynamite or ink.if youve ever seen footage of it its amazing and sickening to watch. just some things to chew on before we run to our legislatures.
 
well reefplayground have you ever heared of adaptation??? :)


yes, and that takes tens and hundreds of thousands of years. The intrusion of foreign species over a couple decades kind of destroys the adaptation theory. Thats the whole point!!!

Besides that, many of these species are destroying local economies. ie ferrrets in California cause millions of dollars in agricultural damages. Toxic caulerpa species have wiped out thousands of miles of native algae forests in Calfornia thank to our hobby. Which has directly led to the diminishing populations of local sea life. The bangai cardinal is almost extinct in the wild as a direct result of our hobby.

So much for self control and responsible reef keeping eh? Because i'm sure not a single person here has ever had a bangai cardinal in their tank.

How much money do we spend on cleaning up these messes? Please. No one here even considered how our hobby impacts the local wildlife.

So everyone here would chose the extinction over thousands of species of animals simply because you want to have a hobby? Jesus, grow up people.
 
Last edited:
AquariaCentral.com