I hate to be this guy...

it's a matter of perspective really.

to some tropical fish or aquarium fish are pets. to others they are food. and yet to others still something in between.

is one anymore wrong than another? No.(keep an open mind here)

when raised for food they are maintained in relatively small anclosures with a constant new supply of water. it benefits the supplier to have fish that grow well. the fish are treated very well(relative term) as it is important to the income of the producer. some salmon are pen raised with a virtual limitless water supply.

for many of us..we strive to try and produce the best environment to our fish.
but in reality..are we cruel for keeping fish in an enclosure like an aqaurium?
wppuld the fish be better off in nature? maybe yes..maybe no.

it's all perspective


ed

judge not lest ye be judged.
 
star_rider said:
it's a matter of perspective really.

to some tropical fish or aquarium fish are pets. to others they are food. and yet to others still something in between.

is one anymore wrong than another? No.(keep an open mind here)

when raised for food they are maintained in relatively small anclosures with a constant new supply of water. it benefits the supplier to have fish that grow well. the fish are treated very well(relative term) as it is important to the income of the producer. some salmon are pen raised with a virtual limitless water supply.

for many of us..we strive to try and produce the best environment to our fish.
but in reality..are we cruel for keeping fish in an enclosure like an aqaurium?
wppuld the fish be better off in nature? maybe yes..maybe no.

it's all perspective


ed

judge not lest ye be judged.

Perspectives may very, however this does not change the notion that purposefully causing suffering is ethically wrong!
 
H3D said:
Perspectives may very, however this does not change the notion that purposefully causing suffering is ethically wrong!


I'm sorry but i didn't get the impression that anyone was purposely causing harm.

on the contrary. I got the impression that tho some overstocking exists..those folks were not purposely cuasing harm but rather were trying to make the conditions less harmful for example changing water more frequently or improving tank conditions when necessary by getting larger tanks etc.

I don't believe that keeping fish has hit the same pinnacle (by most standards) as say keeping a cat or dog or other livestock. atleast in terms of the law which is the way we measure these standards.

in essence we may have established some moral high ground but I don't beleive there has been an ethical standard.

and agian..these vary given the circumstances ie raising animals as a food source.
 
star_rider said:
I'm sorry but i didn't get the impression that anyone was purposely causing harm.

on the contrary. I got the impression that tho some overstocking exists..those folks were not purposely cuasing harm but rather were trying to make the conditions less harmful for example changing water more frequently or improving tank conditions when necessary by getting larger tanks etc.

That may be, but once someone has been told they are causing harm and then they continue to do so it becomes purposeful. It is also purposefully causing harm by condoning these actions and then encouraging other to commit similar actions.

star_rider said:
I don't believe that keeping fish has hit the same pinnacle (by most standards) as say keeping a cat or dog or other livestock. atleast in terms of the law which is the way we measure these standards.

in essence we may have established some moral high ground but I don't beleive there has been an ethical standard.

and agian..these vary given the circumstances ie raising animals as a food source.

The Law does not dictate what it is ethically right or wrong! It is merely a set of rules based on the standards and morals of the society that makes them.
 
umm duh... I fish/hunt every year, but I have never deluded myself into thinking it doesn't hurt the animal in question. If I am keeping the fish I end its pain as soon as possible, if not, release the animal. Though, I am starting to believe getting hooked doesn't hurt the fish much as I have often caught the same fish more then once and am convinced it realized it was getting a free meal and I wasn't going to keep it.
 
hmm

H3D- It was a fes.... um the comment was meant in jest. :joke: Sorry for no smiley. I still am going to practice catch and release. It is pointless to keep something you are going to eat.
 
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