MAFIA 10: Vampires!

[Dangerdoll]

My apologies, G, I didn't mean for my post to come off with such a tone to it, you know I love you girl. I was feeling like though that you were frist saying that you wouldn't seemingly question us (me and Z) on the fact that our postings were on mee mee and then I see that in fact you did turn around and do the very exact thing by not exactly questioning on mee mee persay but became suspicious to a point where you felt you needed to compile everythng surrounding that time. Call it bad morning, I dunno.
When I said I understood your questioning or your suspicion about that, I sure do and still do understand it, G but that doesn't mean I had to support that I agreed with it.
I'm sorry you feel I twisted your words, in fact I felt as you did the same to mine...

 

[johnlarson66]

Ogre, why did you suggest to vote no one and then after ggf followed your advice vote for her? What was your reason for voting for ggf?

I'll answer as best I can.
First, the odds of hitting a vamp on day 1 were really bad, 1 in 9. With so many players and so few vamps, we were sure to hit an innocent. That's pretty much the same in every game though. The difference in this game was that the vampire court grew each night. This would present several problems not the least of which is that someone that was innocent could suddenly become a vampire.

Second, as usual, it's not really a good idea so I left it out as a trap. I wanted to see who would go that way and why. GGF was the first one so I voted for her. Remember I was working, so I had to vote and hope for the best because I wasn't sure I could have changed it.

I do not buy the whole trap thing.

But if we go for the trap, then how come ewurm has not sprung your trap. He did vote for no one! Yes it is true, ewurm's vote on day one was to vote no one. How did he aviod this trap that has been put out. Is it because he is new? Well, guppy has been around a lot of these games, but I consider her new. This seems to be the first one she is playing with any interest. So far I am encouraged by her game play.

Too be honest, I think that with this game voting no one could have been an option. There were only two vampires.

Myself, I am scared to even discus such a thing, I have almost been hung for wanting to talk about it, luckly the detective saved me.. As far as ACville is concerned, voting no one on the first day is not an option and talking about it or doing it will get one killed. I do not agree with that, but I am just one person.

I am glad I did not fall into this trap. I am sure I would have to answer all sorts of questions. Questions that no , besides me, is asking ewurm.

 

[charlie_stubbs]

I have a very hard time believing JL is a bad guy. His voting for CS every day (and CS actually does look evil to me) would be a major tip off if CS came back innocent after a staking and then JL would certainly look bad in light of that. I think JL, and any evil person for that matter, would be trying to look less suspicious and not go after 1 single person knowing full well that person is innocent. I'd think they would rather hover around like vultures to swoop in for a kill whenever an innocent makes a slip that they can use against them *cough Mee-Mee cough*. That's how I was thinking when I was evil and it seemed that's how the rest of the evils were thinking as well.

RB your fixation on the rules and the fact that when you say something you actually don't ever say anything is really starting to bother me. It just seems like you are trying too hard to appear helpful without contributing anything of substance.

RB is my prime suspect at this point. We agree on this. I hope i can change your mind about me Sway, i am not an evil scumbag.

 

[Lady G]

DD, again, I gave great respect for you and Z. You're both very good players and wouldn't make a seemingly silly mistake like that. Unless there was a very good reason...
This is why I wasn't sure I wanted to bring this up or not..because I have great respect for both also and I too had a hard time believing them to be so obvious...unless they didn't think someone would pick up on it.
In my mind, I can't imagine anyone (hunter/seer or vampire court) making a silly mistake like that. However, I would think that the hunter/seer would be much less likely to need to do something like that. The vampires are trying to make us vote for other innocents, the hunter/seer are still looking for innocents.
Exactly, the Vamps are trying to get us away from the LV.
Even if the seer investigated mee-mee first (which would be odd), that team probably wouldn't try to get her lynched... at least when no one else is looking in her direction. If she wasn't the LV, then they could safely ignore her and bring it up later if need be.

I can imagine a scenario where two vamps would make a play like that though. One where the LV is in danger of being staked. So the two subordinate vamps make a 'silly' mistake. Distract the town from the LV by staking an innocent, then everyone gets caught up in them and forget about the LV.
This very well may be what was going on, although I am satisfied (at the time) with Z's responses to me...but he is a good player and very well could be playing on the fact he knows I no this. I still do not blame them for my change on vote it was my choice...but if they hadn't brought that up about MM I would of never changed. I am not so sure of DD though, from her answer to me. It could be she saw Z as a way to "help" her.

Those are my thoughts on the subject. I'm still staking toward JohnLarson as my vote as (based on the above) he was the lead vote getter until the mee-mee thing took over.

Now, my observations are telling me that DD and Z are really pushing hard on this topic... is it to defend themselves? Can't be, no one is voting for them. But people are voting for John again and they want to try and keep us distracted.

Thanks for this post Ogre...I was clearing Z and JL in my mind, after this I am not so sure now. I have to rethink here, AHHHH here I go again with the back and forth thinking in my mind!!!
You know last night after reading my girls bedtime stories...this game is like reading 3 Dr. Seuss books in a row!!!!!!!!! Your mind becomes mush and you have know idea what you are really thinking:hypnotized:

 

[johnlarson66]

Thanks for this post Ogre...I was clearing Z and JL in my mind, after this I am not so sure now. I have to rethink here, AHHHH here I go again with the back and forth thinking in my mind!!!
You know last night after reading my girls bedtime stories...this game is like reading 3 Dr. Seuss books in a row!!!!!!!!! Your mind becomes mush and you have know idea what you are really thinking:hypnotized:

Please do not clear me unless the seer confirms it. I expect to be a suspect and would preffer that I am. Everyone is suspect and only ggf is a confirmed innocent and that is just for today.

I do not see how Ogre post that you quoted makes me a good suspect, he says see above, but I do not see what he is talking about. I do not mind being his number one target, I just do not understand why.

 

[Dangerdoll]

hmmmm..... explain how I could have seen Z be a way to help me, G..... I don't get that.

 

[johnlarson66]

Instead of "until nightfall", it should have read "Until shortly after nighfall". It wasn't until the beginning of day three that i began to think sploke was less scummy. Here are the order of events:
On day 2 i have JL and Sploke both as 4's on my list.(10=innocent) After nightfall i realize Sploke or RB has been kidnapped. RB is ranked high on my list (a 2) and i realize they cannot both be vampires. When DC posts his list, i don't know which has been kidnapped. I agree i like his list. Besides me, two people on it rank 4's on my list. I later see Sploke viewing, but doesn't post. I now assume he has been kidnapped. RB is now a one on my list, and for 24 hours Sploke is innocent.

RB is my prime suspect at this point. We agree on this. I hope i can change your mind about me Sway, i am not an evil scumbag.

If these post just look like normal CS posts then I am missing something.

There always seem to be a red flag for me whem people plead that they are not guilty. There is not even a lot of votes on CS anyway. My guess if given a choice of CS and me, most would pick me. Too early to panic.

 

[charlie_stubbs]

Thanks for this post Ogre...I was clearing Z and JL in my mind, after this I am not so sure now. I have to rethink here, AHHHH here I go again with the back and forth thinking in my mind!!!
You know last night after reading my girls bedtime stories...this game is like reading 3 Dr. Seuss books in a row!!!!!!!!! Your mind becomes mush and you have know idea what you are really thinking:hypnotized:

Where would you place RB on your list?

 

[charlie_stubbs]

If these post just look like normal CS posts then I am missing something.

There always seem to be a red flag for me whem people plead that they are not guilty. There is not even a lot of votes on CS anyway. My guess if given a choice of CS and me, most would pick me. Too early to panic.

What does a normal CS post look like John?

 

[Lady G]

My apologies, G, I didn't mean for my post to come off with such a tone to it, you know I love you girl. I was feeling like though that you were frist saying that you wouldn't seemingly question us (me and Z) on the fact that our postings were on mee mee and then I see that in fact you did turn around and do the very exact thing by not exactly questioning on mee mee persay but became suspicious to a point where you felt you needed to compile everythng surrounding that time. Call it bad morning, I dunno.
When I said I understood your questioning or your suspicion about that, I sure do and still do understand it, G but that doesn't mean I had to support that I agreed with it.
I'm sorry you feel I twisted your words, in fact I felt as you did the same to mine...

Sorry you posted while I was typing...I just want to clear up the fact it was NOT the MM thing that made me feel that way, it was as I said the way Z worded that one post that made me look back and when I did it got me thinking, it was strange the way you two "seemed" to post together, that is why I brought it up, the MM thing just fell in with the rest.

Please do not clear me unless the seer confirms it. I expect to be a suspect and would preffer that I am. Everyone is suspect and only ggf is a confirmed innocent and that is just for today.

I do not see how Ogre post that you quoted makes me a good suspect, he says see above, but I do not see what he is talking about. I do not mind being his number one target, I just do not understand why.

Well, JL it does make since to me simply b/c IF DD, Z brought up the MM thing to get ppl to switch over to her and off you, they could of been "protecting" you.

hmmmm..... explain how I could have seen Z be a way to help me, G..... I don't get that.

Because he was posting all around you, and agreeing with what you were saying you could easily turn that around on him.

Now I have to go for a while, to take my dogs out to the park to run. I will be back on after a while.
Guy's I really am not sure of what I think right now...everytime I think one way something else comes up. When I get back and am able to post again, I will add my suspect list with reasons.