Mafia 100-The Witches Return-The Game

[AC] Doomsday998;2751174 said:
Chup, you just responded to Tree but Tree never defended Wiz as far as I can tell and you just voted for me...so why would any of that give you reason to vote Tree?

I don't always get names mixed up, but when I do I get them royally mixed up. I'm not gonna make any excuses for that blunder in naming except it was an honest mistake. Thought it was Doom's Post.

[AC] Hammerhead 991;2751173 said:
I'd love to see some reasons. Or is it passe to actually post reasons for votes now?

I thought I made myself pretty clear.

[AC] Hammerhead 991;2751175 said:
Also, you never really stated whether or not you think Wiz is evil. Seems like a lot of dancing going on in this post. Just can't bring yourself to vote for a teammate?

I don't know if wiz is evil or not, we'll find out soon won't we? And trust me, i would vote him in a heartbeat if i was evil with him.
 
Still trying to find some posts I want to pull. Meanwhile, I'll answer this one.

[AC] Hammerhead 991;2751163 said:
The Wiz I know always tries to do what's right for his team. Can we at least agree on that? If I'm right and he's scum, what would be the best thing for him to do in this situation? What is his behavior showing now?

If he was really innocent, he would be asking questions and posting thoughts right up until the end so that when he got burned and flipped townie, the town would have his thoughts to work from. That's not what's going on here. Ol' reliable, do right by the team is keeping his bazoo shut so as not to slip and incriminate or clear anyone else.


Sure Wiz tries to do what's right for his team. That isn't saying much as the same could be said about anyone, Hammer, at least to the extent of their ability in the game.

Bottom line IMO is his behavior is showing for whatever reason that it's possibly true he cannot play right now. What I don't understand your reluctance to consider that as a possibility along with the possibility Wiz is scum.

While Wiz has used his schedule as an excuse sometimes doesn't negate the times that also happened before when he wasn't scum. It's a given that his job has prevented him from posting in a lot of games from what I've seen of his track record. Add to that his claim that his truck broke down on top of whatever work schedule he has anyway, does explain why an innocent Wiz might remain absent. How are we supposed to know? We don't know whether Wiz is lying to us about that. I don't see how we can conclude from any of his game posts what kind of shape Wiz's truck is in. It's a point we obviously aren't able to verify one way or another.

This brings me to ask myself if an evil Wizard would make something up like this to excuse not posting more than once or twice a day. Can't say I fully buy him trying to hide out this much because he's what........ too stupid a player to think of something clever enough to post? Except for his absence and playing a half assed game as a result, the so called evidence pointing to him as scum seems pretty thin.

That said I may still vote Wiz because Wiz could just be playing us...... hoping to bide his time. I agree it's possible too just not sure it's his style. I just haven't decided yet. Although I would also expect an evil Wiz right now to be fighting tooth and nail to stay alive at this point if he were on the site.

Let me just say I am sorry I can't resolve this about Wiz. I wish I could decide one way or another. In the meanwhile I'll go back to other posts I want to address too.
 
[AC] Doomsday998;2751199 said:
So if I understand correctly your theory is that the scum (mainly BH and Chup) are trying to deflect attention away from Wiz by voting for me, his hypothetical teammate?

If Wiz is the head witch, and even if half of my list is correct, then I suspect there is all sorts of damage control going on. If you and Wiz are both witches then Chup and BH are most likely witches also. If all four of you are witches, I would like to be the first to nominate all of you to the mafia hall of shame. I am sure there is no way that all four of you are scum. I am fairly sure I am not 100% correct on any of this. Heck, Wiz might flip innocent. Then all of this is meaningless. Are you already resigning to the fact that Wiz is a witch? My theories and that post was only correct if Wiz is a witch.

So Doom, do you think Wiz is innocent or a witch? Which way do you have them leaning? Neutral?
 
I am still trying to read up and absorb things but since time is running out and I am only on page 7, I thought I would at least post my off the cuff thought so far and note that this post below really caught my eye.

[AC] xx_Nemesis_xx;2750870 said:
This is really weak.

You're completely ignoring this post at number 109, made more than an hour before I voted for Driver at post 124 :



Building a case against someone based on mis-direction or skimming is not pro-town.

By the way what are saying I took the time to link to a profile for ? I certainly didn't do so deliberately and I've gone back through my posts and I don't find any links. Can you show me the post ?

Is it just me that caught the font change in this post?

So far, I vote Nemesis at the stake.
 
[AC] chupacabra;2751204 said:
I don't always get names mixed up, but when I do I get them royally mixed up. I'm not gonna make any excuses for that blunder in naming except it was an honest mistake. Thought it was Doom's Post.



I thought I made myself pretty clear.



I don't know if wiz is evil or not, we'll find out soon won't we? And trust me, i would vote him in a heartbeat if i was evil with him.

The thing that still doesn't make sense is that in the same post you still responded to Tree, as well as to me.

[AC] chupacabra;2751172 said:
With everyone on Wizard there are too many ways for evils to hide. If the votes were more spread out we'd learn more about who's siding with who. I also think that using Wizards role as an indicator to the roles of others won't work this game, by the logic I already explained. Never said you were evil, only that it shouldn't be written off simply because you defended wizard. Look at my logic and ask yourself, is it really flawed, or merely cautious? And in light of that, your reaction of trying to discredit everything I said and put me on the sidelines and a captain obvious gives me reason enough to vote you.



I currently suspect everyone of scum. A list of mine includes everyone who isn't me. People who I think are more likely... well, currently Doomsday is the only one.

I vote to burn Doomsday at the stake.

Red = to Tree; Blue = to me (Doom).

I never questioned your thoughts on how the votes weren't spread out and I never referred to you as Capt. Obvious. That was all in the post of Tree's that you did actually quote and respond to...
 
[AC] UhOhChongo;2751211 said:
I am still trying to read up and absorb things but since time is running out and I am only on page 7, I thought I would at least post my off the cuff thought so far and note that this post below really caught my eye.



Is it just me that caught the font change in this post?

So far, I vote Nemesis at the stake.

Hahahahaha.

No its not you skimmy thing you.

It was raised already and answered by me.

You didn't break my code.

Hee hee.
 
[AC] Doomsday998;2751196 said:
In addition to the complete mess that is this post, I'd like to know why I'm currently the only person who you think is more likely scum. You mentioned both me and wing as possible scum even if Wiz is innocent but you narrowed it down to me based on no clear reasoning. Why, because I'm the one who questioned you?

You told Tree not to wait to post a list, questioned me for not posting a clear list...then turn around and say your own "list" includes everyone. I'm sure that took a lot of thought...

I vote to burn Chup at the stake

You're the only person I think is vote-worthy because I don't think anyone else is vote worthy at this time. My gut is also telling me that your evil, and your trumped up defense of it is also interesting.

[AC] xx_Nemesis_xx;2751203 said:
ps I presume wiz is going to get it and I'm A OK with that.

As per my lists.

You remember the lists, Chupa ?

There is no need for sarcasm, nem, I never even pocked at you. Why so angry that I asked for lists?
 
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