Mafia 101 - Blarney Castle: Return of the Leprechauns - Game Thread

[jbradt]

I've looked back over the events just before and since nightfall. There still really isn't much to go on, but a couple of things stuck out to me as interesting.

First was Dawg tieing the vote. This happened with about 20 minutes left before nightfall and Chill still a pretty big variable. I can see Dawg doing this in either role, so I don't think this in and of itself is a mark of his alignment. But it struck me as a plot point nonetheless.

A couple of people (myself included) commented on how quiet it was. Wiz at one point mentioned that it could be an indicator that the scum were feeling secure. Which is what I was thinking too when I made my Scooby-Doo reference post.

I have a couple of questions for Fozzy bear. Let me preface by saying Welcome to the game, and you've been a really fun addition so far. =) That being said: How did you prepare for the game? Did you read past games? Have you played before either here or elsewhere?

I also think it's funny that AAF spelled news with a silent "k" but that's neither here nor there.

 

[allaboutfish]

I can't stay very long right now but I have at least some questions for just about everyone. So I'll just put these out there and check back later today.

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AAF -- This should be fairly straight-forward. When did you decide to place your random vote on Dawg? BEFORE looking at thread? You already intended to vote whoever the person was that just happened to make the latest post you saw and then saw it was Dawg so you voted him? Or.... AFTER looking at the thread? Seeing Dawg had made the last post (missing the Fozzy post), you then decided to pick Dawg for a random or arbitrary D1 vote at that time?

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Dawg -- When you retracted your Fozzy vote to vote Red, thus creating a tie between AAF and Red.... Chill was the only one who had not voted yet. You said you wanted to see if someone might switch or find out which way Chill would vote. At that time, what did you think was most likely from Chill.... that he would break the tie.... or that he would vote someone other than AAF or Red?

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Driver -- You made 2 game related posts that I saw. First to vote Lady G because it was a rainy afternoon. Then to comment that AAF seemed a bit sensitive in his response to the many posts from O3T. You chose the word "sensitive" and not "defensive" for how you phrased that. And you didn't seem to feel anything strongly enough to vote AAF -- you left your Lady G vote in place.

As you read nightfall events, were you hoping the coin flip would kill AAF or Red? Did you lean either of them as more scummy than the other? Was your vote on Lady G a joke vote or a random vote? Who other than Lady G were you considering for your vote (if anyone)?

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Fozzy -- How random was your vote on AAF? Originally, you voted him based on his exchange with Zaffy about the video (being dickish). Was that a serious vote or a joke/random vote?

Later when OT3 made several posts that they did not believe AAF's vote on Dawg was random at all....... you were the only one who seemed to understand AAF's side of it. You explained that you could easily see that AAF might have missed your post and really thought Dawg's post was the latest one in the thread when AAF posted his vote (3 minutes after your post).

And, since you actually posted that... did you wonder at all whether you should move your vote off of AAF?

I have to ask because it seems odd that someone would leave their vote on a person...... but then be the only one to defend them in some way to another player who ALSO went on to vote them.

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Hi IQ -- You voted Red for making a big deal about Zaffy making a big deal about AAF posting a non-Irish-drinking-song video. Was that a joke... you did that because you were trying to be funny? Or did you think Red really seemed scummy at the time?

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O3T -- I'm having a little trouble trying to "read" you. Blasted alias names! lmao.

First, you said Red's vote on Zaffy looked like first "serious" vote of the game. How serious were you about that specific statement at the time? Was that an actual comment or were you being sarcastic? (Red voted Zaffy because Zaffy voted AAF for posting a non-Irish-drinking video.)

(For the rest of these questions, keep in mind that I do NOT want to know who you are. When you answer this, please make sure you do NOT make it some kind of a clue about your actual identity. As I said, it's hard for me to read you because I don't know what your usual style is.)

Your many posts about AAF and your vote on him suggests two possibilities -- that you are generally an aggressive/inquisitive player who believed it was worthwhile to keep poking at him, I guess, to gauge his reaction.... OR.... that you held some actual conviction in your belief that AAF is evil.

Which is it? Were you just messing with him or did you (do you) actually think AAF is scum?

And finally, this: You seemed pretty sure that AAF is evil based on how you focused on him over his random or no-random vote on Dawg. That being the case, why so narrowly focused on only that single random vote when there were several other random (or self-proclaimed random) Day 1 votes that you didn't comment about in any way?

Do you intend to vote AAF again today or do you have other possible suspects in mind?

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Wizard -- You voted O3T because dinosaurs died out long ago. Was that a random vote or a joke vote?

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At the moment, I don't have any questions for JB, Lady G, or Zaffy yet. I went through real quick to re-read their posts but didn't see anything to question them about so far. All 3 players usually post a lot more content than they have (regardless of their role) and it was a very slow day. Just need to wait until they get more involved, I guess.

before i even looked at the thread i knew i was going to pick the person in front of me.

 

[Kashta]

Glad to see some posts coming along now. Wish I could stay. I'll be back later

 

[allaboutfish]

I've looked back over the events just before and since nightfall. There still really isn't much to go on, but a couple of things stuck out to me as interesting.

First was Dawg tieing the vote. This happened with about 20 minutes left before nightfall and Chill still a pretty big variable. I can see Dawg doing this in either role, so I don't think this in and of itself is a mark of his alignment. But it struck me as a plot point nonetheless.

A couple of people (myself included) commented on how quiet it was. Wiz at one point mentioned that it could be an indicator that the scum were feeling secure. Which is what I was thinking too when I made my Scooby-Doo reference post.

I have a couple of questions for Fozzy bear. Let me preface by saying Welcome to the game, and you've been a really fun addition so far. =) That being said: How did you prepare for the game? Did you read past games? Have you played before either here or elsewhere?

I also think it's funny that AAF spelled news with a silent "k" but that's neither here nor there.

really? ? i didnt even notice that. haha i suck at spelling.

 

[allaboutfish]

i find it funny that 2 people decided to vote me just bc i posted a video. i mean 1 would be ok but 2 just seems like theyre trying to find an easy vote that will be unnoticed.

 

[Kashta]

Hang on.. just saw this.

before i even looked at the thread i knew i was going to pick the person in front of me.

Well...... okay, AAF. That is one way to pick someone randomly. But let me give you a little advice for future games. Don't decide a random vote that way ever again!

Let's say for the moment that this is true and you are a townie. Voting out someone like Dawg is a very bad choice. If Dawg is innocent, he is extremely valuable to the town. Definitely someone you don't want to help get lynched on Day 1!!! He's very smart at this game and we need him to help us nail scum. Heck, I'd much rather trade 2 or 3 other townies for just one player like Dawg.

 

[Kashta]

Gotta go now....

 

[[AC] Old3Toes]

I read through the thread again and really not a whole lot to go on. LG did vote for Chill which is a good sign. Although it doesn't clear her because there is a lone Lep out there I'd say she will drop down on my list for now.

I'm also wondering about AAF and the people who pushed for votes there. Not sure which side of the argument I would fall on in that one. Meaning whether scum were pushing to get AAF lynched or if there was something more to those votes. I actually saw it at the time that AAF was typing while Fozzy posted but others saw it differently I guess. I did make a joke in that direction though.

I would say that LG's vote doesn't do anything to make me learn her one way or the other at this point. No one except Chill knew he was scum.

O3T -- I'm having a little trouble trying to "read" you. Blasted alias names! lmao.

First, you said Red's vote on Zaffy looked like first "serious" vote of the game. How serious were you about that specific statement at the time? Was that an actual comment or were you being sarcastic? (Red voted Zaffy because Zaffy voted AAF for posting a non-Irish-drinking video.)

(For the rest of these questions, keep in mind that I do NOT want to know who you are. When you answer this, please make sure you do NOT make it some kind of a clue about your actual identity. As I said, it's hard for me to read you because I don't know what your usual style is.)

Your many posts about AAF and your vote on him suggests two possibilities -- that you are generally an aggressive/inquisitive player who believed it was worthwhile to keep poking at him, I guess, to gauge his reaction.... OR.... that you held some actual conviction in your belief that AAF is evil.

Which is it? Were you just messing with him or did you (do you) actually think AAF is scum?

And finally, this: You seemed pretty sure that AAF is evil based on how you focused on him over his random or no-random vote on Dawg. That being the case, why so narrowly focused on only that single random vote when there were several other random (or self-proclaimed random) Day 1 votes that you didn't comment about in any way?

Do you intend to vote AAF again today or do you have other possible suspects in mind?

Wow, lots of question marks. I'll try to answer everything but forgive me if I miss one...

Red's vote looked to be more than just a joke vote, to me anyways. It certainly wasn't a "I vote to lynch you LOLOLOL" vote like most at the time were.

AAF saying his vote was random (when it wasn't) is the only thing that really stuck out to me yesterday and seemed vote worthy. I absolutely HATE having a joke/random vote on Day 1 although that's just how I play the game. I don't mess with people to mess with people. If I'm picking at something it is for a reason. I wont go so far as to say I thought AAF was "evil" but I thought there was a greater probability than others. On the first day it is hard to get much further than that...

I would have to go back and look at specific votes but I don't remember anyone actually saying their vote was "random" when it was placed. I think all had some line of thinking, whether it was based on a joke or not. Maybe it is a difference in semantics?

I can't say I have any suspects yet and it would be foolish for me to say that I think AAF is 100% scum and I will definitely be voting them tonight.

 

[allaboutfish]

Hang on.. just saw this.



Well...... okay, AAF. That is one way to pick someone randomly. But let me give you a little advice for future games. Don't decide a random vote that way ever again!

Let's say for the moment that this is true and you are a townie. Voting out someone like Dawg is a very bad choice. If Dawg is innocent, he is extremely valuable to the town. Definitely someone you don't want to help get lynched on Day 1!!! He's very smart at this game and we need him to help us nail scum. Heck, I'd much rather trade 2 or 3 other townies for just one player like Dawg.

so then how should i vote on day 1? bc even if i did a random number generator it still could've gotten dawg.

 

[jbradt]

I would say that LG's vote doesn't do anything to make me learn her one way or the other at this point. No one except Chill knew he was scum.

HUH? Was this clarified somewhere? I was just wondering whether Chill was a communicator or not and I couldn't find it in the thread. The nightfall post just says "Evil Leprechaun".