Mafia #14 -- The Play

[Madcrawdad]

JL, since you were asking for feedback to some of your posts, here goes:

Where to start. What a crazy night.

While I think it is odd that Lady G came out as the Detective. I do think that she is. She was either a power role or mafia as far as I could tell anyway. I think that is why so many of us suspected her.

Since she knew who the Doctor was and they could talk to each other, I think she could have stayed hidden and only come out if the Doctor got hit. I can see how she paniced.

I vote to lynch Danger Doll

Also, if Lady G is wrong, then she is mafia and will be everyones lynch vote the next day. By the time you posted this, DD had confessed to being mafia several hours prior...

As far as DJmajor goes, once again, I think most everyone thought he was mafia. I had some doubts, but the guy just kept messing up.

BTW, nice save Doctor.

I will try not to make this too long of a post. I wanted to get my list of who most likely mafia, once (or if) DD is found to be mafia. Once again, DD confessed several hours prior to this post, so it's not a matter of 'if' she'll be found guilty, she will be guilty.

This list is in the order of the posts I am using to back me up.

Jensons - this post was right after the day had started, instead of discussing Lady G's claim to be the Detective, she wants to go on a wild goose chase of who lynched DJ and then wants to know how many "townies" she can count on. Well he has not told us any counts before, why would he now. I find this post very suspect.

I see why Lady G has her as a suspect. I hope she is investigated soon.

As you may have noticed from my posts last night, I also like Jensons as probable mafia.

clown-lover - another post soon after the day had started. He had challanged Lady G on being the Detective, but now in the new day, he wants to believe her. Instead it is a mafia play and votes to lynch her. I just do not like the "I want to believe you", she has been his number one suspect.
I've been keeping my eye on CL since the beginning of Day 2. In addition to my post last night where I pointed out that his reaction to LG coming out was 'odd,' there were a couple of other things that I've noticed.

Early on Day 2 he kind of laid the blame for his Chas vote at HN and Chas' feet... also, when looking helpful and pointing out who HN named as suspects, he conveniently didn't mention that HN named Clown Lover (along with myself) as suspects... Odd, isn't it?

judgemax - real quick to jump on board with Lady G, which I can understand, they were both voting for Blue and since their "disagreement" have been more on the same page, but then this post. I am at a loss. What did RB say she did? Agreed.



Blueiz - I have thought she was either mafia or a power role. If Lady G is the Detective, then I doubt she is the Doctor. I am fairly sure that she will be the next investigation. It would not suprise me that she was the other Don.
Blue asking LG, who the doc was really odd...conveniently, she claims now that it was a trap.

OgreMvk - has mixed it up some this game, but has added to the confussion more than helped. I also think it is odd to throw Blue into this at this time. It really seems at this point it is about Lady G and Dangerdoll. I agree with some of the points about Ogre, however, haven't been paying close enough attention to him yet to truly say one way or the other. I do find his early list (where he said Ice and I seemed the most innocent) a little odd. I don't know that I'd added any more 'subtance' than a lot of other folks by that point. Also claiming that CL's post for lynching LG was the best post ever seemed a little strange.


This list of course will not mean anything if this is a trick by Lady G. I would be really impressed if it was, but at this point, I think she is the Detective.

right now i'm worried about the DD and blue Vs. lady thing going on.this could be a mafia vs. innocent thing w/ DD and blue being mafia, or it could be a lady really is mafia and DD and blue are right. There has been alot of post brought up within this thing, but some are from the first night, when we are not sure what to think.
anyone else have any thoughts on this or is it just me?

remember that there is a possibility that they are all bad...not a very good one because I doubt that if blueiz and dd were on the same team they would both be going after the same person. And neither of them would be going after Lg if they were on the same team as her...so I guess I could rule that out. My guess is that two of them are mafia and like you I have no idea which one is at this point. If I had to pick it would be Lg and Blueiz. But I am still watching DD, of course.

Okay I am still reading. Also DP is online and I am hoping to see what he has to say. I found these posts and thought they were relevant. It also changes how I feel about cooldude.

What about your thoughts on Jpap, who looks to be siding with DD in the quote that you posted?

 

[Blueiz]

No, I dont have a better suspect, and if dd isnt a townie, then no we arent on the same team. I have a few thoughts as I posted and would like some input on them before i put my vote on someone. I dont want others to vote on someone just because they have a lot of votes..

Im not in anyway saying dd is innocent, I just want some more imput before i cast my vote. DD is to smart to be posting like shes been at the bar all night, this stands out to me as well. I dont think she would post anything without meaning.

 

[Lady G]

Below is a quote from my post



Then from LG where she quoted me.


If you believe they were, and Im saying there were, why are you going to have to go back and see, you ARE the det right, shouldn't you already know?

Ok, I have thought about this a lot. Before DD wasnt posting hardly a thing. Then she comes out with a few posts. In one of these posts she brings out a post where the detective was mentioned. DD hasnt posted a lot, and honestly other than by her self admission I dont see where she is a Don. Then seemingly out of the blue out comes LG saying she is the det. It seems as tho there is a gap in between, like a plan is being followed. I cannot put my finger on it, I just find that as quickly as these things came out, seemingly without much input from many ppl, that it is a plan in the works. It does not seem like a plan that would be pro town, however, if LG and DD are working together, they could execute there plan exactly as they have planned it. Just some thoughts to throw out there, mainly what has me wondering is DD's mention of det when no one else thought anything of it. And it seems as tho her and LG may be workig together, making a plan unfold.

Wow alot of the word "plan" in there...have you been off making plans:nono: You are right about one thing though, there is a plan in the works and it is between the doc and detective to take out the mafia!!
So you think we made a plan to take out the teams Don..you are really stretching here aren't you.
I can understand being worried about me, ok I have felt the same way in previous games when the detective/doc or any PR has came out. You are just not wanting to see it though because I believe, you are:Angel: mafia and in time will be able to prove it.
Also I believe there were post about DD asking about the detective. I'll have to go back and see...but I'm pretty sure there were questions about it.

I highlighted the portions I was responding too.

 

[Blueiz]

Again you are copy/pasting just the parts of the post to make things look different then they really were.

If it will make you happy LG, I will post full posts and highlight what full sentences I am referencing in the future. Should I post the post number as well?

The nitpicking over nothing is ridiculous. I do believe that everyone is quiet capable if the have a question regarding a quote to go back and read the full post, that is if they arent skimming and are really looking for clues. Do you not have this same capability?

 

[Lady G]

4) Everything stays in the game, no PMing people and setting up deals or alliances, or discussing issues in this game on other sites. The sole exception to this is the authorization by me for special role players to do so.

6) Anyone can declare to be the detective, or any other power role; indeed, I've seen the bad guys do so quite effectively for a short time.

Your point being?

 

[Madcrawdad]

Ok, I have thought about this a lot. Before DD wasnt posting hardly a thing. Then she comes out with a few posts. In one of these posts she brings out a post where the detective was mentioned. DD hasnt posted a lot, and honestly other than by her self admission I dont see where she is a Don. Then seemingly out of the blue out comes LG saying she is the det. It seems as tho there is a gap in between, like a plan is being followed. I cannot put my finger on it, I just find that as quickly as these things came out, seemingly without much input from many ppl, that it is a plan in the works. It does not seem like a plan that would be pro town, however, if LG and DD are working together, they could execute there plan exactly as they have planned it. Just some thoughts to throw out there, mainly what has me wondering is DD's mention of det when no one else thought anything of it. And it seems as tho her and LG may be workig together, making a plan unfold.

I retract my vote on DD

Uh, Blue.... whether this is a mafia plan or not, DD has admitted to being mafia. You can't go wrong with a vote for DD at this point. Unless, of course, you think that DD is a townie claiming to be mafia in order to get herself lynched.

 

[judgemax]

No, I dont have a better suspect, and if dd isnt a townie, then no we arent on the same team. I have a few thoughts as I posted and would like some input on them before i put my vote on someone. I dont want others to vote on someone just because they have a lot of votes..

Im not in anyway saying dd is innocent, I just want some more imput before i cast my vote. DD is to smart to be posting like shes been at the bar all night, this stands out to me as well. I dont think she would post anything without meaning.

I understand, the need to want to look for more, but I think DD is trying to post this way, just for that reaction, we all know she is better than what she is doing, So, IMHO, shes banking on the fact, that the over analyzers are going to try and look for more, and actually see less. < hope that makes sense?.

for JL, and clown.
I asked how anyone could not believe that The doctor had protected Lady G when RB pretty much said the same exact thing as LG did.

Yes I am quick to side with LG, after RB said that, I thought about it after, and even posted so, but I am now comfortable, seeing How DD turns out, before I doubt her, You have all done this in prior games, I am doing it now, If LG is wrong, you better believe that I will vote her, come first light.

 

[judgemax]

sorry, edit, that was for MAD, and JL.

 

[judgemax]

Uh, Blue.... whether this is a mafia plan or not, DD has admitted to being mafia. You can't go wrong with a vote for DD at this point. Unless, of course, you think that DD is a townie claiming to be mafia in order to get herself lynched.

very well said, ..

 

[Lady G]

No, I dont have a better suspect, and if dd isnt a townie, then no we arent on the same team. I have a few thoughts as I posted and would like some input on them before i put my vote on someone. I dont want others to vote on someone just because they have a lot of votes..

Im not in anyway saying dd is innocent, I just want some more imput before i cast my vote. DD is to smart to be posting like shes been at the bar all night, this stands out to me as well. I dont think she would post anything without meaning.

So what are you saying then? She has been called out, her last ditch effort to take a few innocents with her, doesn't mean shes not smart?

If it will make you happy LG, I will post full posts and highlight what full sentences I am referencing in the future. Should I post the post number as well?

The nitpicking over nothing is ridiculous. I do believe that everyone is quiet capable if the have a question regarding a quote to go back and read the full post, that is if they arent skimming and are really looking for clues. Do you not have this same capability?

Yep, I nitpick but it's not over nothing...you took two parts of a quote that didn't even really go together to try and make them look like they did. I obviously have that capability or I wouldn't of been able to make the case I have against you, although lately you have been doing a real good job of building the case for me Thanks for that.