Mafia 34-Time Crisis(the Play)

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Good news.

SWAT should have had 4 investigations by now, and unless their investigations are of dead people, they should have some info... even if it's innocent reads that can clear some folks.

Also good news in that to have a team, you need to have more than 1...so, there's more than 1 SWAT member still in play.

As mentioned by LG, assuming that SWAT has good info, one of the agents might consider coming forward (if not today, in the near future). If the Doc hasn't been turned, the open SWAT member should be protected, right? If the SWAT member, for some reason, isn't protected by the Doc, we can assume that the Doc has been turned, and that leaves a pretty clear trail to someone...

Also, SWAT members and Doc... if it looks like you're going to be lynched at any point, claim your role. It doesn't do the town any good to find out afterwards that they've lynched one of the PRs. Don't panic at two votes and spill the beans (as to your role). If it looks like your a goner, though, say something...


I agree, we need all the help we can get. Having players we can take off the list will help narrow down the possibilities.


Yes...and if you read the top (below), it says that there was a chance you wouldn't be home before night, which means you were content to ride that vote.


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You're wrong, Ice. The case I made against JPap isn't weak at all... there's the possility that it may not be correct, but the case isn't weak...big difference.

On Day 1, Jpap brought up, and considered the use of a 'no lynch' vote. Normally I'm against a 'no lynch', but in this game (with the bomb transfer aspect) it could make sense. JPap saying so on Day 1, kind of had me leaning him slightly innocent at that point, as it sounded like good townie talk, and something that the terrorists wouldn't be urging, as it did have the potential to hurt their game.

On Night 3 (or 4?) when he came out against not lynching, it made me wonder what had changed. The fact that somebody was turned on Night 1 could explain his revised thoughts on the issue.


Weak might not be the best wording but its all I had while in the rush to get to work on time.
I see what you mean and agree.
The thing that throws me though is your insistence to use my 1st day vote against me. It only stood for 9 posts before I switched to Chill for his 17 comment. I would think there is a lot more you could try to use against me. The fact that you would use the 1st day vote against me looks like you are again trying to take the focus off Cap.You seem to be filled with a lot of half truths this game.

I'm having a hard time deciding who I'd vote for as you and Jpap would make great turns and both have done things that seem to deserve votes.

Hopefully one of the SWAT members will come out and clear up the confusion.
 
The thing that throws me though is your insistence to use my 1st day vote against me. It only stood for 9 posts before I switched to Chill for his 17 comment. I would think there is a lot more you could try to use against me. The fact that you would use the 1st day vote against me looks like you are again trying to take the focus off Cap.You seem to be filled with a lot of half truths this game.

I'm having a hard time deciding who I'd vote for as you and Jpap would make great turns and both have done things that seem to deserve votes.

Hopefully one of the SWAT members will come out and clear up the confusion.

As far as holding a 1st day vote against you, I'm holding a lot of your votes against you, because many of them are the result of little things & based on solely your gut ...

And if you could point out any of the half-truths you refer to, I'd be happy to respond...
 
is this the vote count other people have?

HN-(2) Judgemax, NJ
Ice-(2) Mad, HN
Cap-(1) Firedancer
Jpap-(3) Lady G, Ice, Cap

left to vote....
Nickel
DD
Jpap

i know i dont have post numbers and retractions on there...but is that the final count up until now that everyone else has?
 
ok well i have to leave here soon so i need to vote....

i still think HN is a terrorist...but like i said yesterday...i want to do my part to ensure someone gets lynched...so i am going to go with Jpap...call it jumping on the current "train" or whatever you want to...i just dont want a tie....and ive been voting for who i really thought was evil and its not working...

so

I vote to lynch Jpap
 
I vote to lynch cap...

IMO, it seems caps posting style has changed. The aggression he takes brings me to wonder if he has this new found confidence due to holding the bomb...
 
is this the vote count other people have?

HN-(2) Judgemax, NJ
Ice-(2) Mad, HN
Cap-(1) Firedancer
Jpap-(3) Lady G, Ice, Cap

left to vote....
Nickel
DD
Jpap

i know i dont have post numbers and retractions on there...but is that the final count up until now that everyone else has?

I am pretty sure Pap has a vote on me
 
As far as holding a 1st day vote against you, I'm holding a lot of your votes against you, because many of them are the result of little things & based on solely your gut ...

And if you could point out any of the half-truths you refer to, I'd be happy to respond...

Of course they are based on little things and gut feelings. There hasn't been much more then that to go on.

Again the 1st 2 nights we voted the same.

Day 3 you voted for HN and he was saved. I guess that dropped him off your list or is it that you know he will be protected again and so its not worth you trying to lynch him?

Day 4 you voted Jpap and totally stayed away from JL and LG. Didn't want to get caught up in that mess did you? Even though both have been suspects of yours.

Day 5. Now all of a sudden Jpap isn't on your radar? You've named just about every player as a suspect then vote for one each day never sticking to the same person 2 days in a row.

As for half truths maybe thats not the word I was looking for, maybe trying to twist post meanings fits the bill better. You took NJs post to LG and some how got that it looked like a chat room post. Took my post and totally disregarded it was a 1st day post to not UD in case I didn't get home even though the post said I should be home in time. I'm sure if I had the time I could find other examples.

I'm more interested in who the suspects have been each day though. Maybe from that list we can see who HASN'T been a suspect and have it lead us to your team mates. Think that would be more telling then posts you can try to talk your way out of.
 
Of course they are based on little things and gut feelings. There hasn't been much more then that to go on.

Keep in mind, it's not only about your final votes of the nights. It's all those in-between votes you've cast for gut reasons, too. I really think that your constant vote-hopping is being done to create a little bit of chaos in the town.

Again the 1st 2 nights we voted the same.

Yes, you voted Chill solely for 17 v. 20. I voted based on heavy role-play concentration and then trying to blend in when confronted by RB. Also, the fact that Chill's 1st post when confronted was basically 'game theory' (as opposed to jumping into the fray) looked suspicious to me...the 17 v. 30 was a PIECE of a puzzle.

Day 3 you voted for HN and he was saved. I guess that dropped him off your list or is it that you know he will be protected again and so its not worth you trying to lynch him?

Due to the Doc, HN was saved. Why? No idea. But there's all kinds of scenarios (good and bad) that have gone thru my head. Regardless, HN's play was so anti-town on Days 1 and 2, and Ogre (SWAT leader) voted for him, that I feel pretty good that SWAT would have investigated him at some point, and we'll know his status in the near future.

Day 4 you voted Jpap and totally stayed away from JL and LG. Didn't want to get caught up in that mess did you? Even though both have been suspects of yours.

Did I mention JL? Don't think I ever mentioned JL... if you can find the post, I'd be happy to address it. But, you dove all over citizen JL in a heartbeat and I'm suspicious for not getting in?


Day 5. Now all of a sudden Jpap isn't on your radar? You've named just about every player as a suspect then vote for one each day never sticking to the same person 2 days in a row.

Never said that Jpap isn't on my radar, I just like you better.


As for half truths maybe thats not the word I was looking for, maybe trying to twist post meanings fits the bill better. You took NJs post to LG and some how got that it looked like a chat room post. Took my post and totally disregarded it was a 1st day post to not UD in case I didn't get home even though the post said I should be home in time. I'm sure if I had the time I could find other examples.

Yeah, every time I question your statements regarding me, you back off and say, 'Yeah, I guess I chose the wrong word...what I really meant was this.' Uh-huh.

First I was scummy, according to you, because I've been sliding through, but now, apparently, I've been trying to stir things up. Which is it, Ice?


I'm more interested in who the suspects have been each day though. Maybe from that list we can see who HASN'T been a suspect and have it lead us to your team mates. Think that would be more telling then posts you can try to talk your way out of.

I think it's interesting that someone who said just last night that they were willing to go is now fighting so hard to stay.

Ice see comments above. I feel pretty good about you being scum...
 
Day 1

Post 23 already throwing suspicion at NJ. Took it as a joke but if my Day 1 vote reasoning had to be a serious vote then this has to be counted as serious also.

Post 102 suspicious of Nickel

Post 161 LG

Post 171 LG

Post 202 Chill and a vote for him

Post 268 LG

Post 350 NJ

Post 360 NJ

Post 387 NJ

Post 393 NJ

Post 436 NJ

End of day had vote on Chill

Day 2

Post 648 HN

Post 650 NJ votes her.

Post 693 Rickets to a certain degree

Post 701 HN

Vote was on NJ at days end

Day 3

Post 890 HN and votes him

Post 959 HN and Ice

Post 1033 NJ the chat room post

Post 1075 Ice

Post 1114 HN

Post 1119 HN

was on HN

Day 4

Post 1270 Jpap

Post 1363 Jpap votes him

Post 1383 Jpap

Post 1390 Dawg

was on Jpap

Day 5

Post 1434 Ice votes me

Post 1443 Ice

Post 1444 Ice

Post 1496 Jpap

Post 1543 Ice

So left from the list this is who you haven't suspected yet. Bolded are gone from the game.

jmax
Rb-UD 2 terrorist
DD
Firedancer
Zsand-hit 3 sniper
Johnlarson lynch 4 innocent

Cap
ogre hit 1 Swat leader
cam- UD 1innocent

Nickels
[AC] Rickets UD4 Innocent
[AC] BadHaggis UD 2 terrorist


still living

JM
DD
Fire
Cap
Nickel
 
Jpappy(4)-Cap(1438) Ice(1440) LG(1442) Nickels(1554)

ice(2)-HN(1417) mad(1434) HN(1545)

Cap(2)-fireD(1510) DD(1555)

HN(2)-NJ(1431) Jmax(1550)

LG(1)-Jpappy(1480)

NJ(0)-HN(1432)

Mad(0)-ice(1419)

Night in 50mins, PMs Needed
 
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