Mafia 46: In the Dark

[johnlarson66]

Mael, yeah, that's pretty much my thinking. Except, for LadyG, if she was the turn night 1, then something odd happened (maybe she just decided to really start playing). I almost prefer as night 2 turn (not that it matters) based on this stuff this morning.

I really want to know what happened to John, he's either been awfully quiet or he's dead because he was on a team and was picked by the other team. I know he said he was travelling and wouldn't be on a lot, but I REALLY WANT TO HEAR FROM JOHN NOW!!!!!

Best case, he was mafia and recruited by the good guys, in which case we're down to 3 innocent team and 2 on the mafia team. Actually, it doesn't matter, if he was innocent and recruited by the mafia, then the score is still the same.

Innocents are ahead.

Until I hear from him, I'm going to assume John is dead and the score is as above.



Something is not quite right about LadyG either. She makes a good case for lucky, but why the sudden jump into deep investigation mode?

I'm not quite as concerned about a night one singleton vote as LadyG is. I'm also not quite concerned about lucky.

LUCKY: I do want to hear why you tried to switch to me. You said "No time, will explain later" please go ahead an explain. I want to know.



Good point, since it's been brought up already.



I still don't see the lucky deal. I may be wrong, but I get nothing from lucky.

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My list
mael - almost surely innocent
noods - almost surely innocent
me - almost surely innocent
John - if alive, then probably innocent, if dead, then it don't matter
C-note - very unsure of, but leaning innocent
lucky - leaning mafia
LadyG - very probably mafia
Rich - almost surely mafia
DD - ?? good turn choice for night 2, quiet, no one has commented on her much, etc. She does add to the 'lucky hysteria' but very subtly.

I would be perfectly happy voting rich or LadyG.

I am here now Orge, sorry to have you think I was dead.

I am unsure on your list, why is noods "almost surely innocent"? and how come MC is not on your list?

I don't think you killed your own teamate, but can see the reason for doing it. I have done it in the past to gain the trust of the town. With this being a team build game, you can replace a lost teamate. I don't have you as a suspect, but did suspect you before this last nightfall.

 

[johnlarson66]

As promised here is lucky's explaination,

Hey guys sorry for the confusion. Noodles made a really good point, as a town it wouldn't of done any good to have a tie. So I was going to vote for who ever I thought would be the most mafia ish. Well between the two I musta been wrong because dawg was mafia. It was a random vote, but because my vote wasn't doing anything any way I thought why not. And I said I'll explain later because I had like a minute to try to post it, you can look that up!

But lady G, I expected you would vote for me, but it is blatantly obvious that you are the mafia and are just trying to get me out of the way. You have been laying low for a while now, and suddenly changed, as ogre pointed out. I dont know what caused this change in strategy. But I know, you know, that I know who you are. You and dog were a communicating mafia team. FACT. Obviously you can see she is panicing because thats why she is voting for me so early.

People of ACville, if I go out tonight, I can promise you one thing. Lady G is the culprit.

I vote to lynch LadyG

Put that in your pipe and smoke it. Mafia mistress

Lucky, you posted your vote after nightfall, but then we have to wait until the next afternoon for an explaination. I am not sure when noodles made the point of a tie being bad for the town. I have played often when ties have been purposely put in place to see who would jump. Maybe noods said this in a different forum or in chat. I am guessing that she was on a team and the other team recruited her. She was seen viewing the thread and didn't post. Noods loves to post.

So there was a tie and you jumped. Your vote would have saved Dawg, a known mafia. I can't see how you can't be viewed as mafia.

 

[OgreMkV]

I am here now Orge, sorry to have you think I was dead.

I am unsure on your list, why is noods "almost surely innocent"? and how come MC is not on your list?

I don't think you killed your own teamate, but can see the reason for doing it. I have done it in the past to gain the trust of the town. With this being a team build game, you can replace a lost teamate. I don't have you as a suspect, but did suspect you before this last nightfall.

actually, I think this post was before I figured out she was dead.

BTW: She was on for like two hours this afternoon and didn't make a post. So, she was probably killed. Based on some hints she gave (and not very subtle ones) she was a communicating townie. The mafia tried to turn her and killed her instead.

Here's the sequence as I see:
Day 1: 2 town 2 mafia
Night 1: turn turn
Day 2: 3 town 3 mafia
Night 2: turn (hope) fail turn / kill dawg
Day 3: 3 town 2 mafia

So we're back to two mafia. Crap. I still prefer rich and lucky. Dawg might have been coaching them, but they lost him and are now running without much experience. hopefully.

 

[luckydud13]

To Lucky...how can you be sooooo sure about my being mafia? As far as I know the only way to be 100% certain about another player is A) they are your team mate, which I know I am NOT. B)Investigations, which again I know we don't have this game. What I see is you have experienced players with you, (Dawg was one) that have let you know or you have read past games and you know how easily ppl will jump to me. The town will decide, but you are blowing alot of smoke with your "I know she is" "Vote with me you wont regret it" posts.

Also to you Lucky, you DID say in your post that you voted me (last night) that you voted me to get ppl to talk, how are you now denying that?

I cant say anything, but another way to be positive is if we tried to reqruit a certain someone, and lost a player because she was on the mafia. Cough cough.

And for the hundreth time, I did not do it so people would talk. I did it so that mutes and quite mafia members who do nothing for the town but make blatanly obvious comments, like you, will be out of the way. And all the rest of the people have many post counts, which makes it easier to decipher a specific person. This is the last time I am explaining this so make sure to read it.

 

[Opicana]

I believe Lucky.

To me, it sounds like he is a communicating innocent who has found out LadyG is Mafia. He could be lying, but I think he is sincere- I just think he is new and awkward at explaining himself (he was like that last game). So, it just continues to support my theory of Rich/LadyG.

 

[luckydud13]

So there was a tie and you jumped. Your vote would have saved Dawg, a known mafia. I can't see how you can't be viewed as mafia.

But at the time, it was not known, and I took a chance and went with ogre, I realize that was a mistake now, but I dont see you harassing all the people who voted for ogre in the first place? And lest say I was protecting dawg (not), would I risk it so much as to do it at the last minute?

 

[johnlarson66]

actually, I think this post was before I figured out she was dead.

BTW: She was on for like two hours this afternoon and didn't make a post. So, she was probably killed. Based on some hints she gave (and not very subtle ones) she was a communicating townie. The mafia tried to turn her and killed her instead.

Here's the sequence as I see:
Day 1: 2 town 2 mafia
Night 1: turn turn
Day 2: 3 town 3 mafia
Night 2: turn (hope) fail turn / kill dawg
Day 3: 3 town 2 mafia

So we're back to two mafia. Crap. I still prefer rich and lucky. Dawg might have been coaching them, but they lost him and are now running without much experience. hopefully.

Not CJ, but MC.

 

[luckydud13]

So we're back to two mafia. Crap. I still prefer rich and lucky. Dawg might have been coaching them, but they lost him and are now running without much experience. hopefully.

And ogre, have you ever once seen me communicate at all with rich? I didnt realize he was playing till the second day! I dont think I have mentioned him at all. We have not voted for the same people, been offline at the same time, or even had a comment on one anothers post.

The only reason you think we are a team is because you think both of us are scummy, but have no proof we are connected.

 

[johnlarson66]

I cant say anything, but another way to be positive is if we tried to reqruit a certain someone, and lost a player because she was on the mafia. Cough cough.

And for the hundreth time, I did not do it so people would talk. I did it so that mutes and quite mafia members who do nothing for the town but make blatanly obvious comments, like you, will be out of the way. And all the rest of the people have many post counts, which makes it easier to decipher a specific person. This is the last time I am explaining this so make sure to read it.

Is lucky saying that he is a communicating innocent and they recruited Lady G who is mafia and then the mafia lost noodles?

While this is good for the town, it appears to be a violation of the game.

 

[OgreMkV]

Please read Lucky's quotes in light of the fact that dirtydawg is known mafia.

Ugh my bad guys, didnt sleep well last night, a little drowsy, I meant this. I seriously didn't mean anything by it, and do you really think that I would be that retarded?

defensive

Would I even an already noobish player, but honestly, come on, I have mafia experience and I know that saying what I said and not having a reasonable explanation, would be like an untimely suidcide in this game.

defensive

I answered my question, I edited because it was uneeded and would of been just steaming the pot that is this game. I already explained what I said, and you know once I posted I realized it was uncalled for which is why I edited because I did not know.

I have only played one mafia match before, and it was the last mafia and no aliases were used, you could ask anyone, noodles, ogre, opi, even Ice. So I had no past knowledge of aliases.

And in the last round, nothing came up to where I had to edit a post, so I had never been taught that, even though I read the directions, it was that same foggy night that I mistook a ogre post for a noodles post. Wont happen again.

Now, lets stop piddling over crapp information and worry about how we are going to root out the mafia.

Defensive

^^^To add on to that, because right now, we are throwing accusations at evveryone.

Hope some constructive converstaion starts emerging soon. Because now that I have gotten accusations thrown at me, for making noobish mistakes, I feel like I have no reason to post with these frivelous comments, and until something with more impact starts happening, and due to school, I will lay low.

There's some stuff about mael's vote in here.

That was.......uncalled for, what exactly might he be covering up for? And more importantly who is he covering up for. Dangerdoll to me has really not made any headway whether she is mafia or innocent, unless they know something we don't.

Mael's vote

And you c-note, a majority of your posts have been about accusing dirtydawg. Not that I am sticking up for him, becuase he is still on my maybe list, but why do you want to lynch him soooo bad?

Defending Dawg

Not to go back to elementary school, but maelstrom, dirtydwg did ask you the question first. And for whatever reason you are hiding behind another question is beyone me. But it is obvious that the majority of players myself included is interested to know why you voted. I dont think dirtydawg thinks your scummy for voting for DD, I think he thinks your scummy for not answering his question.

Defending Dawg and puching attention back to the Mael/DD thing

c-Note please read posts 121 and 139 both you accussed dirty dawg of different things. Lie in post 139 you mentioned how he would never answer your question about maelstrom being scummy. My remark is what is the point c note? Why does andyone care if someone is scummy? I know alot of innocent people in life that are scummy as hell. This whole episode with you and dirty dawg I feel is an attenmpted distraction against the maelstrom inquisition. Both c-note and maelstrom are on my list for this reason.

Defending Dawg... again

****, c-note has it out for you dirty dawg. Thats why I said earlier about my suspicion between mael and c-note.

Defending Dawg

I retract my vote from rich and vote to lynch Luckydud.

That is all, I'm done for until night fall.