Mafia #51 - Mafia Citizens - The Play

[jpappy789]

So JL just confirmed what I have been trying to say. Zig COULD be mucs that the mucs fully intented to protect from the Z's theory was that Zig was recruited to the mucs by plant.

The fascination with noses amuses me.

In the first part of the quote you say exactly what I said, you just turned the words around. The Protections are made the day before so if the Rebels picked Zig, it would make sense to rally a vote on him like what happened right before Nightfall Day 1, maybe there was no Rebel Protection that day? I'm not sure and the rules don't say one way or another. And if you are accusing me of Protecting Red, like I said to Mostly... yeah right. You voted first on Zig who was an Citizen presumably, I vote first on Red who was a Citizen presumably. How can you try and lynch me for the same thing you yourself have done. The difference is I voted Red early enough that we all had time to discuss it before Nightfall, unlike the late train on Zig.

I am not pushing Kash, I voted for her because I saw Mad was the Hit victim then thought better of an abrupt move on my part. I am still as wary of voting for her as I have been since the whole Day 1 non-sense began. If anything I am now pushing you since you have decided to come at me with such ambition. Was I Protected yesterday? Do you want me lynched so I can join your crew? No thanks.

Z says Zig was a citizen who the mucs tried to get onto their team by protecting. Now you say that the mucs protected Zig, their teammate? Thats even more ridiculous. You have been touting Z's theory even though most people have shrugged it off...and now you twist it? Scummy scummmy scummy...

 

[jpappy789]

Sorry the first part should read this...

So JL just confirmed what I have been trying to say. Zig COULD be mucs that the mucs fully intented to protect from the get go!!

Z's theory was that Zig was recruited to the mucs by plant.

 

[jpappy789]

I realize this is probably a radical change in thought but bear with me...I have graduation today so I am all over the place and need to get going...

I am to the point where I think we need to know what Kashta is. Everyone is throwing out theories and it's making things confusing for everyone else. I believe that if Kashta really is a citizen like she claims to be then neither team would risk her being lynched and having the other protect her. I am 80% sure both teams are protecting her. In that case, she will be gone for good and her role will be revealed. That also leaves the chance for her to be rebel scum, which is good for the town to know. Based on that, I vote to lynch Kashta

With Kashta being so vocal earlier I think the rest of the team sat around and didn't do much. I would suspect if she is a mucs that DD and Luvbugz are with her as well. I realize this is probably a radical change in thought but bear with me...I have graduation today so I am all over the place and need to get going...

I am to the point where I think we need to know what Kashta is. Everyone is throwing out theories and it's making things confusing for everyone else. I believe that if Kashta really is a citizen like she claims to be then neither team would risk her being lynched and having the other protect her. I am 80% sure both teams are protecting her. In that case, she will be gone for good and her role will be revealed. That also leaves the chance for her to be rebel scum, which is good for the town to know. Based on that, I vote to lynch Kashta

With Kashta being so vocal earlier I think the rest of the team sat around and didn't do much. I would suspect if she is a mucs that DD and Luvbugz are with her as well. I would throw in Bkw also but he was very vocal early...it's mainly to balance out the team as I don't think there would be only 3 but there might...

Sorry again, but I really really have to go. I will not be online until late tomorrow morning, if not later.

 

[jpappy789]

ok, my post got messed up.....:nilly:

 

[Luvbugz]

So JL just confirmed what I have been trying to say. Zig COULD be mucs that the mucs fully intented to protect from the Z's theory was that Zig was recruited to the mucs by plant.



Z says Zig was a citizen who the mucs tried to get onto their team by protecting. Now you say that the mucs protected Zig, their teammate? Thats even more ridiculous. You have been touting Z's theory even though most people have shrugged it off...and now you twist it? Scummy scummmy scummy...

I wasn't twisting it. I was showing you that it COULD happen because you were trying to state that JL said that the mucs (or mafia for that matter) couldn't protect their own teammate.

 

[plantling]

CJ has been so quiet who knows what is up with them, coler could be scummy a number of people have noted it but we haven't seen anything solid on him yet (IMO), RB was just screwing around he wasn't realy into the game even though he was pro-town, and kashta was voting to save herself


I cant help but still be suspicious of you Plant the last minute vote switch attempt if y9ou wanted kashta why not vote her earlier to make sure she was out or was she your good distraction and if it had gone through well one innocent is as good as another. the whole attack on Kashta day two keeping us focused on her and off everything else and now you back off because she may be protected. she could have been protected day one or two she has been i viable lynch candidate every day.

I vote to lynch plantling

I totally don't get your logic, Maverick. If I were a Mucs and both Zigman and Kashta were innocent, why would I even try and draw attention to myself by trying to save one over the other???

And I voted Kashta early on day 2 and stated my concerns on her but not as you claim to the exclusion of everything else. I believe I also stated suspicions on ZSand and his possible connection with Kashta plus I tried to follow up on the late votes on Zigman.

As for not wanting to vote Kashta today, it was largely due to the fact that ZSand wanted to vote her right after nitefall. Since he is high up there on my Rebel list, it appears to me that they r finally giving Kashta up for some reason and it has been confirmed by John that rebels can protect each other, so what better reason than if they had a protection out on her. Makes sense to me. And they may very well have had protection on Kashta day 1 but I'm not so sure since it seemed there was a late push to save her and she herself would not have had to vote to save herself. And day 2 everyone was piled high on top of Red. If Red does come back tonite then the protection was obviosly on him. No psychic powers needed to deduct that.

Okay, the Bala ate some bad Rb and is a little out of his mind.

Seems that post 99 goes against a few of the rules. Post 99 was an attempt to explain the protections, but I can see how I made it harder to understand and how I contridicted my own rules. The whole idea of the protection was to recruit other players onto a team.

Please keep in mind this part of post 99:



So the protection rules stated in post 99 where anyone can be protected stands.

I have not been telling players they are being protected.

LOL, K, thanks John.

 

[The Zigman]

I realize this is probably a radical change in thought but bear with me...I have graduation today so I am all over the place and need to get going...

I am to the point where I think we need to know what Kashta is. Everyone is throwing out theories and it's making things confusing for everyone else. I believe that if Kashta really is a citizen like she claims to be then neither team would risk her being lynched and having the other protect her. I am 80% sure both teams are protecting her. In that case, she will be gone for good and her role will be revealed. That also leaves the chance for her to be rebel scum, which is good for the town to know. Based on that, I vote to lynch Kashta

With Kashta being so vocal earlier I think the rest of the team sat around and didn't do much. I would suspect if she is a mucs that DD and Luvbugz are with her as well. I realize this is probably a radical change in thought but bear with me...I have graduation today so I am all over the place and need to get going...

I am to the point where I think we need to know what Kashta is. Everyone is throwing out theories and it's making things confusing for everyone else. I believe that if Kashta really is a citizen like she claims to be then neither team would risk her being lynched and having the other protect her. I am 80% sure both teams are protecting her. In that case, she will be gone for good and her role will be revealed. That also leaves the chance for her to be rebel scum, which is good for the town to know. Based on that, I vote to lynch Kashta

With Kashta being so vocal earlier I think the rest of the team sat around and didn't do much. I would suspect if she is a mucs that DD and Luvbugz are with her as well. I would throw in Bkw also but he was very vocal early...it's mainly to balance out the team as I don't think there would be only 3 but there might...

Sorry again, but I really really have to go. I will not be online until late tomorrow morning, if not later.

Hmmm..

Did you accidently paste this twice when you copied it from the Mucs conference?

Pretty careless there Pappy... Not too sure about this, I cant decide who I am disliking more here, you or plant.


Unrelated to pappy's post, but I dont want to start a new one..

Alot of allegations flying around with little or nothing to back it up.
Sure I could have been turned scum, or i could have stayed a citizen. Only Bala knows who protected me, and he even said he didnt tell people they were protected so how would the protected people know...?

AND

He said he didnt tell people they were protected, and I am the only person who it is known was protected, so who are the others?

 

[plantling]

plant is definitely setting off my radar today he accuses you of leading us by the nose when he was practically threatening us into voting for Kashta yesterday and after the full blown campaign against her plant just drops it today. seems odd.

plant does bring up some good points on ZS and DD working very light handed to push peoples votes. maybe its just their style of play but could be that they are actually mafia and trying to subtly communicate with their group or they could be rebels trying to control events nothing overly solid there but could use some watching

Kashta is still suspect but i don't see her being a good vote at this time there is too much heat and likely to be at least one protection on her so i don't think we would learn anything from her lynching

MC has had some odd posts but could be due to him/her coming into the game late and not reading through the rules and our disscussion of some of it day one that well nothing much there for me

i don't have anything else now but if anything come to mind ill look into it

Maverick I meant to ask you about this in bold. Umm could you show me where I threatened anybody to vote for Kashta???

And you agree yourself that voting Kashta may not be a good idea today, so why are you questioning me about not wanting to vote her today?

 

[plantling]

Hmmm..

Did you accidently paste this twice when you copied it from the Mucs conference?

Pretty careless there Pappy... Not too sure about this, I cant decide who I am disliking more here, you or plant.


Unrelated to pappy's post, but I dont want to start a new one..

Alot of allegations flying around with little or nothing to back it up.
Sure I could have been turned scum, or i could have stayed a citizen. Only Bala knows who protected me, and he even said he didnt tell people they were protected so how would the protected people know...?

AND

He said he didnt tell people they were protected, and I am the only person who it is known was protected, so who are the others?

LOL Zig. Are you unsure what you are now? When you got the pm from JL telling you you were back in the game, it should have told you what side you were on of if you changed sides. But you can only change form civilian to rebel (If the rebels protected you) or civilian to wiseguy (If a wiseguy protected you) and if Bala protected you as I have hypothesized then you should be what you were before.

 

[jpappy789]

ok so posting one last time...I'm in big trouble with the 'rents now...

I wasn't twisting it. I was showing you that it COULD happen because you were trying to state that JL said that the mucs (or mafia for that matter) couldn't protect their own teammate.

Um, yeah, I was following what the rules were in post #1, which are usually the end-all-be-all of the game. And I never said the mafia couldn't, although the rules do say they can't. If you looked at my post it was clearly saying the rebels. I was not aware of JL's post contradicting the rules.

You are trying to say that Zig was a mucs that was protected by his own night 1. But Z's theory clearly states that Zig was a CITIZEN protected by the mucs night 1. Hence, you are twisting Z's theory to meet your "suspicion" of Zig.

Hmmm..

Did you accidently paste this twice when you copied it from the Mucs conference?

Pretty careless there Pappy... Not too sure about this, I cant decide who I am disliking more here, you or plant.


Unrelated to pappy's post, but I dont want to start a new one..

Alot of allegations flying around with little or nothing to back it up.
Sure I could have been turned scum, or i could have stayed a citizen. Only Bala knows who protected me, and he even said he didnt tell people they were protected so how would the protected people know...?

AND

He said he didnt tell people they were protected, and I am the only person who it is known was protected, so who are the others?

Yep, you caught me. Seriously though, I do not need help making a post. I've played this game 40-some odd times and I know how to place a vote. All I did was copy what I began writing and went back to double check some posts and the voting from night 1 and ended up pasting the first part twice. Ooooh, so scummy!!! But way to insinuate that I'm scum, it almost worked.