i do also think that it is pretty suspicious that all of a sudden JL came out of nowhere out of left field and voted.
honestly, both of you could be mafia at this time, but i am actually leaning more towards JL...the way they just came out and started pointing fingers at DD in such a small time frame is almost screaming ulterior motive to me. it just seems like someone is behind the scenes telling you what to do; your vote is just to sporadic for my liking and is just too all-of-a-sudden. still, i think it would be very unwise for the mafia to just start out like this after jpap got tagged by the MC.
DD has had her share of strange activities as well. not voting yesterday may raise some flags, but then again most votes yesterday were totally random and based on little to nothing. still, she's not really any higher on my list than noddles and luvbugz, who i had some mediocre suspicions for yesterday.
i really think it just happened by chance that MC ended up dying right at the end, and voted for himself to get someone else to think he was an innocent and save him.
This I disagree with completely. MC was already leading the votes a good 10 min or so before nightfall (once FD voted him). He did switch his vote from Luvbugz to himself but he couldn't have expected anyone else to change their vote one way or another based on that move (trying to appear innocent) because he waited until the very last minute to do it.
Check back to his post and you'll see it hit the thread at one minute
after the server clock hit nightfall and one minute later (at 2 min past the hour), JL posted that was nightfall.
As the SK, MC wasn't tied to anyone... and his vote on Luvbugz didn't carry her to get lynched anyway so he also didn't switch to save her. MC was going out already and he knew it... which is what he said as well. His last-minute switch had no effect on anyone so, while I think it was a pointless gesture, all I can read into that was that it was his way of saying his game is over and... farewell.
UMMM...in case you guys missed it the SK is the only person playing who took out any mafia so far. Granted it was probably random but it helped the Town none the less. I don't see why it wouldn't have been a benefit for the town to have the SK hitting more scum for us.
The pace will be picking up tonight I assure you. I have a lot of reading to do and will be posting my comments. I was gone to NH Sunday and had a busy Monday back at work so I couldn't post from here. I'll be on at home quite a bit tonight looking into connections with JPap.
Dawg, I have trouble with your explanation here. If MC's hit on Jpappy was random (which you stated above) and that's the only reason he killed off a mafia player, why would we presume at all that he would have been "hitting more scum for us" had he stayed in the game?
Okay, I have done some reading up to nightfall.
I am sure I skimmed some. Also knowing that MC was the SK and that Coler was innocent and jpap was mafia also put things in a different way than when I first read it.
Coler (innocent - killed by mafia) had the following suspects: Noods, JM, MC and Kash. He states that they are weak and basicly random. Coler has good instincts (when he is playing) and we now know he was innocent.
Here DD states that if she were to vote it would be for bugz, but not ready yet.
Here it is mentioned it is a tie (I think there is less than an hour left)
Confirmed it is a tie.
Mod confirms the tie
MC wants to know why Agass and Kash voted for him. Kash explained, looked like Agass just followed Kash
Kash explains her vote, not real firmly, but at least she answered.
FD, out of no where, with not much time left, breaks the tie. Highly suspect. Admits to saving Luv (saved noods also). While I think no voting would have been suspect also, it should be noted that FD did decide MC's fate.
Seems like MC was kinda down in the dumps with the slow start and wanted to just off himself. I am not sure if he knew that FD had already killed him.
I think for day one, there was plenty of posts, keep in mind this is from someone that did not post at all. I think MC was excited about having such a cool power role and disappointed about it being a slow start.
On Coler: Yes he has terrific instincts, that's very true. But he also blows a LOT of smoke deliberately both early in the game to get people rattled... just before nightfall to see if he can get someone else to switch... or just because he's playing around and it's a fun way to do this. From what I saw from him in the last game, I decided not to read very much into his read of the suspects he posted on D1 (despite the fact that he flipped innocent at the end) because the whole day was painfully slow and I know he points at people sometimes that he doesn't really suspect. He did that last time when it wasn't intended to benefit his mafia connection or even distance himself from it. I'm not saying for us to disregard what Coler said about others from his role as an innocent... just that I'm reluctant to give it very much weight.
On DD: That I agree with. She really did lean a certain way and had every chance to follow through with it and vote for the person she claimed to suspect... which she decided not to do.
On MC: As I mentioned here already, I don't think MC was confused or trying anything.. so I doubt that he offed himself either. I was waiting to see what would happen that last hour before nightfall and it wasn't very eventful. We had a three-way tie going for quite some time and I'm sure everyone was waiting to see which way the non-voters/non-participants would go to decide the outcome. The tally was posted and nothing really happened... FD cast a deciding vote.. and nobody switched. Then nobody else showed up to vote either.
