Mafia 54:Vampires Return (The Play)

jpappy789 said:
DD you've played a vamp game before...strike that, you've played TWO (which I realized after Dawg posted the link for #36) yet you still forget how the game is run...

not only that but you used it as a reason to vote Kash, which makes no sense at all even though I do not agree with most of what Kash has been saying recently. She originally said in post #35 that she suspects Ice might have given a vet the LV role yet you said when you voted for her that there is no way Ice picked the entire team...when obviously the mod had only one role to assign.

And please explain how I am 'riding on Kash's coattails'...
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ummm.... ok, so what Pappy. I admitted that I didn't read through the rules at least one time before... why do you feel the need to drag it on? I voted Kash because I find her most suspicious, especially now with this posting you've done in her regard, if not for her mile long posts. Ans there you have it, you are riding on her coattails by this protection of her that you seem to do... and the posts where you quoted her... doesn't change my mind... nice way to make it seem like you are not on a team... guess what though, I'm not buying it.
 
jpappy789 said:
You've made it into that.

So far you have said that since you could not play a simple doc role no way Ice would make you the LV...and since you are so lynch prone no way the LV would choose you as a turn. I'd say that would pretty much make you innocent then.

Correct me if I am wrong on any of that.
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Pappy, putting this in those terms, you're right. I wouldn't consider myself a leading suspect for the LV role. I also don't imagine Ice would rank me high on his list of go-to players if this wasn't random. But it's still possble, if random, that me or you or anyone else could be.

Whether or not the LV would pick me as a turn? That may vary a lot depending on who the LV would be. Let's put it this way... if I was the LV, I wouldn't pick me as their first or second turn... and probably not as their third or fourth one either. I think he/she/they would have better targets in mind from a game strategy point of view.

jpappy789 said:
I really don't think you are the lesser vamp because of your history. But I am keeping open the possibility of you being the LV per the randomly assigned role...or handpicked...I don't know what Ice knows...he's a twisted mod.
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LOL.. he is twisted, you're right about that. And I'm not saying to count me out completely. I should be suspected along with everyone else. We don't know who's who and would shouldn't overlook anyone.
 
Been waiting to vote until I see a reason to vote.

Dangerdoll said:
I didn't have a lot of time to read through the thread so was going by posts. I do find it interesting how quick you are to jump on a common error like that... you know, you being a newbie and all... go ahead... go ask the Lead if you should keep your mouth shut for now.
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Last time someone claimed a newbie was too new to be able to notice something logical that dear lady was a mafioso.

Not much to go on but for now,

I vote to stick a stake in DangerDoll.
 
I retract my vote for Annie and vote to stick a stake into Kashta
Yes, I know that ties it up again and I am perfectly ok with that. There is not a whole lot to go on on night one and the fact that Kashta continually brings up past games and who played what role, holds no presidence in the present game and I find it a bit distracting to the task at hand. My vote may change if I see anything that sticks out more than this.....it's all I got to go on right now....:huh:
 
Kashta said:
Almost forgot to go back for this quote. This is something that made me suspicious about Coler and why I moved him back on my suspect list.



This last statement, I don't believe at all. When there's a whole mafia team working together, it's easy enough to coach along a newbie. There's also enough of you (say, 4-8 mafia in a game) that each of them can switch off to cover for any mistakes made by the rookie. They work together as a team and they cover for each other in the game.

If Coler is the Lead Vamp right now and he's sitting there planning this out with only one person on his side who he picked himself.... against 17 other players (which include at least 7-8 players who are as sharp at this game as he is), I don't believe he'd have time to babysit, cover, advise, or coach along newbie vampire who lacks the game experience needed to hold their own at this... as he states in this post.

What seems more plausible to me, is it's his attempt to counter my push today for us to look hard at the more advanced players. It's his way of redirecting our attention back to those who are least likely to get recruited/turned to the vampire team.
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I said I would either take the best player in the game (at least in my opinion) or a newb (under the radar). This can't really be spun as an attempt to 'counter (your) push'.

If I was voting right now I would probably vote for Kashta but I'm cautious as the vote is tired and I want to consider the thread further. I had this niggling suspicion of her, and lets face it night 1 is tough. The basis of the suspicion is her defensive mode from pretty early on in the game, which really reminds me of a game I played with her as mafia (the one where she posted too early in the thread). Her responses have a similar sort of tone to me. That's about the height of it though. I will think on it further.

Kashta - if you genuinely think of me as candidate for the lynch tonight I absolutely welcome your vote on me.
 
Kashta said:
Yes and no, Rich. I agree with the reasoning you just said, but I'm not just looking at old vets. We have other logical suspects who didn't play the old game(s). Here's what I had and how it's been updated.

I've included the old vets on my original suspect list (5 names). Then I added 4 more names to the list who I felt were also advanced and, therefore, most likely to get picked by either Ice (if that wasn't random), or as a partner by the Lead Vampire, or to get turned by the vamps the first two nights. Through a process of elimination, I took off 4 of the names after that (reasons were either lack of participation or someone who I've guessed their role correctly in other games we've played).

Looking at my list today I've made more changes now that are based solely on the game underway in this thread...

I've dropped 2 names who were there before (Jpappy and Ogre) and I've added back 2 names I'd had already removed before (Coler and Dangerdoll) because of what they've posted today.

You've seen I've switched my vote from Zsand to DD already. My four suspects now are: Dangerdoll (who has my vote), Zsandman, Johnlarson, and Coler.
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You might just explain to me why a lack of participation is a reason to drop people off your list of suspects - truth be told I'm guilty of a lack of participation somewhat myself in this game.
 
I vote to stick a stake in Rocker.

Call it a hunch. Over defensive of a joke vote and someone I would consider for a turn if I were the LV.

Also Mr. Munster (what was his name?) wasn't a vampire he was Frankenstein. (And that is a joke part of this vote :P)
 
Wycco said:
Been waiting to vote until I see a reason to vote.



Last time someone claimed a newbie was too new to be able to notice something logical that dear lady was a mafioso.

Not much to go on but for now,

I vote to stick a stake in DangerDoll.
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how very weak and opportunistic of you..... care to give a better reason than thwat? Surely there are oplenty of other clues being left out there....
 
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