Mafia 61: The Gunslinger - Game Thread
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Yeah it would be nice to hear something from those three and Lab as well. Several of them appeared from the ethers last night to give me a bit of a kicking when I was being grilled and then disappeared again when the questions turned back towards them.
I broke this up a bit so I could address individual issues.
So now that Kash has admitted that she would like to take Ice out of a game at some point do you intend to change your view on my statements?
You expected me to take you off my list because of your post confirming that you were only speaking hypothetically?
I don't think so. It doesn't usually work that way. You are still on my list because you are scummy. You and Kash both have the same comments in your posts and are both IMO distancing yourselves from Annie. I will adress this a bit later.
My list is evidenced by the fact that Annie turned up scum and was clearly on my list. My list was not solely based on how teams were selected but also by who seemed scummiest at that point in time. There are other newer players who were not on my list because they didn't seem as scummy to me as Annie. Are you still asking me why Annie stands out the most? I think my point was proven when Ice took them out.
C'mon JPap, enough dramatics here. It was day 1 and my best hunches at who was evil based on their gameplay were given. If you don't like my picks that tells me I'm right and that's why you don't like them. I think you and Kash are scrambling at this point because you seem to be on a lot of lists. Presumably on the innocents lists.
So now it's my turn...Here's JPap's list. Notice he mentions Annie "not sure but has me concerned" typical mafia speak when referencing their own temmates in a list. Then he has Lab, Razz, Zaffy & JB. This is one of the worst lists I have seen posted. You don't have myself, Kash or Z listed? Surely ony of us must look scummy to you at this point? Yours is one of tha garbage lists that I believe Ice was referring to previously.
Now here's Kash's "list"...Notice the bolded paragraph. This is the same non-committal mafia flip flop on Annie that JPap has in his list. If Annie is shot you look good but you don't really come out and point the finger and say shoot.
So JPap, how's that? I have no problem with Ice shooting me other than we will be losing Ice at that point in time. The one benefit would be that seconds after the shot is confirmed by Mad I'll take either you or Kash out of the game. I've said that before and I know that's why you are comming after me. Don't forget though. Ice's shot won't take me out of the game
So now that Kash has admitted that she would like to take Ice out of a game at some point do you intend to change your view on my statements?
You expected me to take you off my list because of your post confirming that you were only speaking hypothetically?
I don't think so. It doesn't usually work that way. You are still on my list because you are scummy. You and Kash both have the same comments in your posts and are both IMO distancing yourselves from Annie. I will adress this a bit later.
My list is evidenced by the fact that Annie turned up scum and was clearly on my list. My list was not solely based on how teams were selected but also by who seemed scummiest at that point in time. There are other newer players who were not on my list because they didn't seem as scummy to me as Annie. Are you still asking me why Annie stands out the most? I think my point was proven when Ice took them out.
C'mon JPap, enough dramatics here. It was day 1 and my best hunches at who was evil based on their gameplay were given. If you don't like my picks that tells me I'm right and that's why you don't like them. I think you and Kash are scrambling at this point because you seem to be on a lot of lists. Presumably on the innocents lists.
So now it's my turn...Here's JPap's list. Notice he mentions Annie "not sure but has me concerned" typical mafia speak when referencing their own temmates in a list. Then he has Lab, Razz, Zaffy & JB. This is one of the worst lists I have seen posted. You don't have myself, Kash or Z listed? Surely ony of us must look scummy to you at this point? Yours is one of tha garbage lists that I believe Ice was referring to previously.
Now here's Kash's "list"...Notice the bolded paragraph. This is the same non-committal mafia flip flop on Annie that JPap has in his list. If Annie is shot you look good but you don't really come out and point the finger and say shoot.
So JPap, how's that? I have no problem with Ice shooting me other than we will be losing Ice at that point in time. The one benefit would be that seconds after the shot is confirmed by Mad I'll take either you or Kash out of the game. I've said that before and I know that's why you are comming after me. Don't forget though. Ice's shot won't take me out of the game
Funny how this early list from Kash looks eerily similar to yours JPap.
I would hate to think these 3 are sitting back not helping the Town and waiting for Myself, Kash and JPap to take each other out.
I would hate to think these 3 are sitting back not helping the Town and waiting for Myself, Kash and JPap to take each other out.
Kash was showing a list of people she thought Ice should shoot and I'm assuming JPap did the same.
I would lean towards shooting kash. That "if I turn out innocent" raised a eyebrow for me. What also worries me about kash is that she wants someone not that experienced in at gunslinger (if they are innocent) which would make it easier for mafia to lower the numbers. JB I am not sure about, which worries me.
In turn, I am leaning towards dawg as innocent, and AGI as mafia. I feel someone told him to shut it (like always). Razz also bothers me to this point, trying to lay low under the radar. I also think jpap is innocent.
In turn, I am leaning towards dawg as innocent, and AGI as mafia. I feel someone told him to shut it (like always). Razz also bothers me to this point, trying to lay low under the radar. I also think jpap is innocent.
Back to posting again. I didn't get through the thread last night as I intended, so I'm still doing that this morning. And I've taken a quick look now to see what's happened here since last night.... not all that much from what I see, other than the mafia is feeling some pressure after losing Annie.
Ice (and others) have been wanting something definitive from me... here it is. So now I'll go back and pull the posts and give my reasons.
Mafia: Annie, JB, Dawg, (need to identify 1 more).
Suspicious: Agass, Razzle, TRS, Zaffy.
Not mafia: Ice, Lab Rat, Jpappy, Zsand, Kashta.
If you decide to give me that gun, Ice, you can see now who I'm going to point it at. Or you could take a shot at either JB or Dawg to find out yourself if I'm right or wrong. Either way, I'm on record now with a specific call on all but 4 people from the player list.
Ice (and others) have been wanting something definitive from me... here it is. So now I'll go back and pull the posts and give my reasons.
Mafia: Annie, JB, Dawg, (need to identify 1 more).
Suspicious: Agass, Razzle, TRS, Zaffy.
Not mafia: Ice, Lab Rat, Jpappy, Zsand, Kashta.
If you decide to give me that gun, Ice, you can see now who I'm going to point it at. Or you could take a shot at either JB or Dawg to find out yourself if I'm right or wrong. Either way, I'm on record now with a specific call on all but 4 people from the player list.
You ask Ice to elaborate his ideas...
No JB... I did not ask Ice to elaborate. I asked him to cover the bases with a single, direct question. Ice intended to shoot me and talked about the "what if's"... if I was mafia. But Ice hadn't said anything about the possibility that I might be innocent. I wanted to make sure he looked at both sides of that coin before he shot me... and leave me with something to go on before he fired the gun at me.
I expected Ice to shoot me and that meant it'd be up to me to figure out what to do without benefit of picking his brain anymore after that. Ice had just posted who he would shoot next if I was mafia. What Ice didn't address was what he would recommend to me before dying... if he was wrong about me... if I was innocent.
We can't communicate directly outside the thread, so I asked him directly in the thread to tell me whatever he wanted to. And however he decided to answer that question out in the open was up to him. Ice isn't stupid.. he's not going to reveal anything he doesn't want to post openly. It was entirely his choice to decide whether to suggest something like.... "focus on such and such..." or "look at the big picture instead of details..." or "go after [player 1] and [player 2]" or anything else he could think of that would be useful to me if those were his last words before dying.
Under the circumstances... I had no other choice but to ask that question. Ice could also have opted to not answer it and leave me to figure this out for myself.
Ice posted his answer as he saw fit and I accepted it without further question. I would love to ask him a hundred other questions, but because this has to be done here... I had no intention of pressing him to explain further.
you're no longer intimidated by Ice...
That's correct. Ice doesn't scare me anymore as an opponent. There was a time while I was still new to this game when a lot of players scared the bejeesus out of me... Ice, Mad, JL, Coler, Dawg.. and a few others. I've since learned enough as I kept playing game after game to hold my own against anyone when they're mafia and I'm innocent or when they're innocent and I'm mafia. Sometimes I do very well... other times, I mess it all up and get myself killed.
WTF has THAT got to do with asking Ice for advice or accepting his answer at face value???
We're on the same side. Ice may not know this yet, but I do.
Agassizii - No idea. Not helping, not hurting as far as I know.
Dawg - The suspicious thing about him is that nothing stands out, Normally he's a bigger player I think.
JB - Big help against annie on night one, a hero. See below.
Jpap - I could go either way on Jpap right now.
Kash - Shes clever, gotta watch her. Leaning town right now though.
Lab_Rat - Nothing jumps out, fewer posts than me?
RazzleFish - I dunno the deal with Razzle. Could go either way.
TRS - Not a big poster, playing his cards close, but he always does.
Z - Weird timing on a post imo, might be tinfoil, might be swamp gas from venus, might be scum. I could see shooting him.
I wonder about a Zsand and JB link, Zsand is pretty sure that JB is vanilla. He makes some good points. But if the scum team knew Annie was making a target of himself JB's post is a great distancing tool with Zsands support even better.
My mafia team is Zsand, JB, Anyone, Annie.
Dawg - The suspicious thing about him is that nothing stands out, Normally he's a bigger player I think.
JB - Big help against annie on night one, a hero. See below.
Jpap - I could go either way on Jpap right now.
Kash - Shes clever, gotta watch her. Leaning town right now though.
Lab_Rat - Nothing jumps out, fewer posts than me?
RazzleFish - I dunno the deal with Razzle. Could go either way.
TRS - Not a big poster, playing his cards close, but he always does.
Z - Weird timing on a post imo, might be tinfoil, might be swamp gas from venus, might be scum. I could see shooting him.
I wonder about a Zsand and JB link, Zsand is pretty sure that JB is vanilla. He makes some good points. But if the scum team knew Annie was making a target of himself JB's post is a great distancing tool with Zsands support even better.
My mafia team is Zsand, JB, Anyone, Annie.
