Mafia #64 ? Cabin Fever - The Play

[the wizard]

I remember in one of my earlier games when DD was being lynched early on. Just before nightfall, she told us to not get caught up in all the little details and look at the overall picture instead. That was very good advice at the time in that game and it's something I try to remember for the rest of them. The best way I've found of doing that is to set aside what people say in their posts and look (more objectively) at voting patterns and such.

Let's look at the big picture here. Jl you are saying a lot,but, what aren't you saying?

My second suspect is JL, he really is trying hard to get everyone looking at me. That's fine, I have broad shoulders. I can take the heat can you? I believe you to be an accomplice. If Ice isn't the MM then I would put that on you but you are too vocal this early in the game, or are you just cocky because of the results of last night? You were posting so well yesterday but....

You were the doctor originally weren't you? It makes sense now why you didn't "notice" the significance of the first aid kit on the bed.

JL, you seem like two different people from day 1 to day 2. You didn't notice the first aid kit, not because you were skimming, as you claimed. You didn't want anyone to notice that you had it originally and lost it when the madman recruited you.

You and your accomplice DD are also working together to try to build a flimsy case against myself and/or Dag.

You show up after nightfall and make ridiculous accusations against me and Dag.

DD, who has done nothing but get snippy about being accused of skimming, all of a sudden becomes active and makes supporting posts in an effort to confuse the innocents into believing you.

This is a very well coordinated effort between the two of you.

I think Kash's late vote on annie was just to make sure she was not banished. I also think if Kash knew for sure who was evil, she would have pushed hard early.

I disagree. Kashta asked what the vote count was before casting her vote, she knew that she would survive banishment. Judging by the posts she made, Kashta had time to post all of her thoughts and suspicions.

Her last post states that she had so much more to say.

I am trying to figure out this color coding and what it pertains to and the order of the names.

I vote to lynch the wiz.

I think he was sticking close to Kash as a way to hide. I think he knew that she was on to him and he had her hit. It is also odd that he had me as his second suspect after Ice, but followed us both on annie. That vote makes no sense. He had to make sure Kash was not banished as that as who he was hitting.

You pushed so hard to get the town to believe that kashta and I were communicating, going so far as to say we were on the same team.

Now all of a sudden, after we find out that she was innocent, you are trying to claim that we were working against each other.

Kashta told us to look at the big picture and not to get caught up in the little sidetrack things that we have been focusing on since day 1.

You are doing your best to direct the innocents attention in the wrong direction to benefit you and your scummates.

 

[johnlarson66]

Let's look at the big picture here. Jl you are saying a lot,but, what aren't you saying?



JL, you seem like two different people from day 1 to day 2. You didn't notice the first aid kit, not because you were skimming, as you claimed. You didn't want anyone to notice that you had it originally and lost it when the madman recruited you.

You and your accomplice DD are also working together to try to build a flimsy case against myself and/or Dag.

You show up after nightfall and make ridiculous accusations against me and Dag.

DD, who has done nothing but get snippy about being accused of skimming, all of a sudden becomes active and makes supporting posts in an effort to confuse the innocents into believing you.

This is a very well coordinated effort between the two of you.



I disagree. Kashta asked what the vote count was before casting her vote, she knew that she would survive banishment. Judging by the posts she made, Kashta had time to post all of her thoughts and suspicions.

Her last post states that she had so much more to say.



You pushed so hard to get the town to believe that kashta and I were communicating, going so far as to say we were on the same team.

Now all of a sudden, after we find out that she was innocent, you are trying to claim that we were working against each other.

Kashta told us to look at the big picture and not to get caught up in the little sidetrack things that we have been focusing on since day 1.

You are doing your best to direct the innocents attention in the wrong direction to benefit you and your scummates.

Twice now you have posted that you thought I was the doctor because I did not notice the medical bag in the nightfall posts. I don't think I was the only that missed as it was a while before it was pointed out. I think you know who the doctor was as they are now on your team. I don't think you are the current doctor or you would have protected Kash.

Now you are saying I "seem like two different people from day 1 to day 2", what kind of crap is that? Is this based on anything more than just wishfull thinking? Are you sure you are reading the same game the rest of us are. Nice try, put this with the whole "they seem to be playing different" angle. Want to claim innocence or OMGUS?

On that note, I have said that you were hiding in Kash's shadow. I still think that. You have followed her logic and made sure you were going in the same direction as she was.

If you think I am evil, why in the world would you vote on the same person as I did, with less than 5 minutes left for that matter.

You were going to pull some posts and build some cases, but it was all BS. You have done just enough to blend in. If Kash was still alive, I think she would be voting on you.

 

[dirtydawg10]

wow tonight sucks again :cry: to answer some questions that were raised:

I said kashta didn't psycho analyze Ice like she did for the other people as in she didn't write out his name and then give a few sentences on her thoughts about him like she did for almost everyone else. The reason I picked up on Ice not being there was that he had been taking some heat in the posts around when i made that comment and he was a person in particular that I was looking for comments on.

The big issue is tonight is the night that matters, if we don't get right and knock off an evil they will win. I assume that the next night fall is sunday night (at least i hope so because i'll be best-manning a wedding all day tomorrow) I will be rereading the majority of the game up till that point to try and pick up on anything that i might have missed but after seeing that kashta really was an innocent I am very inclined to go with her suspicions on Ice but will have to wait and see if anything else pops out at me while i reread.

Ummmmm

GAME ON!

Nightfall will be Sunday at 8 PM Eastern.

 

[dirtydawg10]

****! This has been a very tough game. We lost 3 innocents night one, and 3 townie pr's tonight. That only leaves the dr. I sure hope they know who to protect.

It seems to me, if kashta was still inclined to believe Ice was evil she would have voted for Ice, especially when Annie was already set to be banished ahead of her.

Kashta asked before voting what the count was.

So who else did she suspect?

I'm not sure I agree with this Wiz. Why would Kash spend all her time showing us her case on Ice if she didn't suspect him? Why after all that wouldn't she have clarified that she changed her mind if in fact she did change her mind. Your reasoning doesn't make sense here. Maybe you could explain it to me better?

Let's look at the big picture here. Jl you are saying a lot,but, what aren't you saying?



JL, you seem like two different people from day 1 to day 2. You didn't notice the first aid kit, not because you were skimming, as you claimed. You didn't want anyone to notice that you had it originally and lost it when the madman recruited you.

You and your accomplice DD are also working together to try to build a flimsy case against myself and/or Dag.

You show up after nightfall and make ridiculous accusations against me and Dag.

DD, who has done nothing but get snippy about being accused of skimming, all of a sudden becomes active and makes supporting posts in an effort to confuse the innocents into believing you.

This is a very well coordinated effort between the two of you.



I disagree. Kashta asked what the vote count was before casting her vote, she knew that she would survive banishment. Judging by the posts she made, Kashta had time to post all of her thoughts and suspicions.

Her last post states that she had so much more to say.



You pushed so hard to get the town to believe that kashta and I were communicating, going so far as to say we were on the same team.

Now all of a sudden, after we find out that she was innocent, you are trying to claim that we were working against each other.

Kashta told us to look at the big picture and not to get caught up in the little sidetrack things that we have been focusing on since day 1.

You are doing your best to direct the innocents attention in the wrong direction to benefit you and your scummates.

Then you make the two statements above in blue and red. They are very conflicting points. If she had plenty of time to post her thoughts why did she say she had so much more to say? She came seconds away from a UD because she waited to post a vote. She waited so she could get all her info out on Ice. She spilled her guts like she thought she wouldn't make it through the night. She even talked about in her posts that she didn't have time to pull the quotes like she wanted to. Kash's comments close to nightfall still confuse me but I'm asuming it was because she was rushing to get what she knew out there.

 

[dirtydawg10]

The posts below are what I was talking about. They do not sound like comments that are made by someone who had plenty of time to post their thoughts, Wiz. Did you even read Kash's posts?

I had errands to take care of today that I couldn't get out of, so I had no chance to get online soon enough to post even half of the posts I needed to pull for you all. I hope you'll bear with me because there are important points for me to establish in less than an hour now before night falls... and I'm flat out of time for this right now.

From what I see from the votes, there's a good chance I'll be the one to die tonight. Looks like it's a run off between me and Annie. At this point, I could easily vote Annie now to tip the banishment in his favor and save myself. (I might even switch to Annie after placing this vote just before night because Lord knows Annie's given us plenty of GOOD reasons to suspect him and to banish him tonight... as many of you have established very well.) As there's no need for me to rehash those points (already addressed by others), I'll skip that in the interest of time to go on record now and place my vote on somebody else.

If I don't survive banishment tonight, I hope someone tomorrow will look further what I'm saying now in these following posts.

I vote to lynch Annie.

Crap. I vote to banish Annie.

The vote to banish above came exactly at 7:00pm eastern and the next post was by JPap calling night.

So much more to say.... but I leave you with my best and most hopeful thoughts, townies.

:lipssealedsmilie: :lipssealedsmilie: :lipssealedsmilie:

 

[johnlarson66]

So FF, what was up with this question -

Can the bartender be Killed? or just banished?

I really thought you we the bartender.

I would like to know why you asked about this role and no others.

I think someone else asked you about it, I am going to keep looking.

Please explain.

 

[IceH2O]

I'm not sure I agree with this Wiz. Why would Kash spend all her time showing us her case on Ice if she didn't suspect him? Why after all that wouldn't she have clarified that she changed her mind if in fact she did change her mind. Your reasoning doesn't make sense here. Maybe you could explain it to me better?



Then you make the two statements above in blue and red. They are very conflicting points. If she had plenty of time to post her thoughts why did she say she had so much more to say? She came seconds away from a UD because she waited to post a vote. She waited so she could get all her info out on Ice. She spilled her guts like she thought she wouldn't make it through the night. She even talked about in her posts that she didn't have time to pull the quotes like she wanted to. Kash's comments close to nightfall still confuse me but I'm asuming it was because she was rushing to get what she knew out there.

I agree with you on the 1st post. Kash was trying to get out that she thinks I am evil and that she voted Annie to protect herself.I also agree that Wiz contradicts himself.

I don't agree with your post that she knew something because I am not evil. If Kash had gotten a PM saying I was evil don't you think she would have posted a case earlier and not last second. You think she knew for 2 days I was evil and withheld the info? Kash was going on gut but the gut was wrong, as it was about Annie. Her case she was able to put out was based on either her not reading through and posting as she went and not getting to all my pointing back to the post. Or just misunderstanding. I think its the 1st scenario because I don't see how anyone could miss all the posts pointing back.

At least 2 of the PRs are still available through transfer but without the Det its going to be a long shot to win.One saving grace is a suitcase gives someone an identity so we really still have 1 invest available.

 

[johnlarson66]

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Why are you hinting at being the Bartender??? Thats scummy IMO :nono:



...

Annie had made a comment and voted for FF.

 

[IceH2O]

Since lab rat was innocent, that means my whole suspect list is crap. So I needed to reevaluate and figure out what i'm missing. This being Day 1 posts, that might not get me anywhere.. but I still have to give it a shot.

If Lab Rat had been evil, my top suspects would have been Zaffy, DD, Dag, and Annie because I felt someone among those names was working to prevent Lab from being banished. The fact that Lab was telling the truth and a townie means she was not communicating with either of these people. We know Zaffy was innocent too. So that leaves DD, Dag, and Annie for me to reconsider now. Their opposition to banishing Lab Rat was either genuine (if they honestly believed her innocent) or out of convenience (if they as accomplice wanted to appear somewhat cleared once her role was revealed).

Zaffy's seeming defense of Lab Rat made him seem scummy to me.. as was his lone vote on Ice. I don't believe Zaffy expected to get hit tonight either... the madman choosing him was a pretty smart move by the scum team. Zaffy was in a position to get himself lynched had Lab Rat flipped evil because he'd gone to bat for her so openly in the thread... and he wasn't posing a traceable threat to the madman based on his post content. So Zaffy was a rather strategic kill as a townie who was unlikely to get himself lynched anytime soon once Lab was revealed as innocent. He was also not very vocal by comparison and, therefore, wasn't likely to draw protection against their kill attempt. Someone on the evil team knows what they're doing, be that the madman themself or a well trusted accomplice. (Sure wish we knew if the accomplices were all volunteers or if they were selectively recruited on Day 1 by the madman.) ** Note -- Adding here that we now know the town's doctor just got recruited by the madman as an accomplice. Someone who was innocent and a townie PR on Day 1 is now working against the town. And it means a regular townie just got promoted to a PR.

The fact that the madman didn't kill someone like me, Ice, Dawg, or JL the first night also suggests that one of us is either a madman/accomplice... or... that we're so off-track with our suspects that keeping us alive another day benefits the scum side more than killing us would. Plus, it's usually just a matter of time before we'll turn on each other (if innocent), which only helps to further confuse the town. Each of our posts were rather definitive and we're well known for getting hit by the mafia, working hard to dig up clues that lead to the scum, and being rather difficult to lynch (or banish) for making bonehead mistakes.

DD - Is quite a savvy player who often gets killed easily the first day. As she disagreed with my/our suspicion against Lab Rat, I'm prepared to drop her as one of my top suspects.. for the present time. The position DD took opposing Lab Rat's banishment seems/feels sincere in retrospect and outweighs the case I believed I had against her over her reaction to my posts.

Dag - As a noob to our game, he's hard for us to read. Combine that with his relation to Lab Rat makes this even more difficult. Don't know what his actual game experience is but he seems to be pretty smart, based on the posts he's made. I'm not going to assume though that he's communicating offline with Lab Rat (as JL has suggested a number of times about me and Wizard).

Annie - Was a suspect of mine because he's virtually inactive in this game.. and his similar position to Dag and Zaffy where Lab Rat was concerned. Someone who might rather volunteer for an accomplice role so he'd have someone to communicate with.

Wizard - JL keeps suggesting that Wizard was following my lead this time and he's hinted that we're working together outside the game. Whatever role Wizard has this time, I have no idea. I know the man well in everyday life but Wizard is also very smart and he understands this game very well. I expect he'll be quite good at this on his own... but I've not played with him or against him in this game setting enough that I can read him yet.

Rich - Better than just about anyone at lying low and staying under the radar in this game. That makes him a very good choice either as the madman or someone the madman might have recruited.

FF - Seems to be all over the place and his nonsensical posting resurfaced as soon as nightfall was over. This doesn't reassure any of us about him being pro-town in any way. FF seems (again) to crave our attention more than anything else and I don't believe he actually cares which team wins. The scum side is communicating this time (FF was non-communicating evil in his last game). If he's evil, I don't see that his teammates would sit by watching him post the comments he made tonight, so it's really anyone's guess which team FF is on.

Tex - Has made something of a spoiler of himself, posting disparaging remarks. Definitely not a pro-town person and he probably isn't taking this game seriously. This seems to be a joke to him or something he's joined to pass the time. As an evil, he's playing a laughable game so I don't see him volunteering for the role or being chosen by the madman.

Razz - Totally non-productive in the game, whether he's innocent or evil. Not much use speculating about him, at this point.

I remember in one of my earlier games when DD was being lynched early on. Just before nightfall, she told us to not get caught up in all the little details and look at the overall picture instead. That was very good advice at the time in that game and it's something I try to remember for the rest of them. The best way I've found of doing that is to set aside what people say in their posts and look (more objectively) at voting patterns and such.

This being the first night and faced with 3 dead innocents... we still have very little to go on. But I've looked hard at where the votes fell to make an early estimation of role based on some generalities. Might as well, since my top suspect turned out to be innocent and the others I was leaning as most likely madman/accomplice were largely based on Lab being scum.

We don't know exactly how many evils there were yet before nightfall ended. I would expect whoever they were.. they would likely have scattered themselves among the top 3 candidates up for banishment, instead of all piling on just one.

From tonight's vote...

5 FF - JL Rich DD Dag Lab

Of the 5 votes on FF, we know Lab was innocent. I'm less inclined right now to suspect DD or Dag. That leaves either JL or Rich as likely evils from these players.

6 Lab - Kash Wiz Tex Dawg Ice FF

Of the 6 votes on Lab Rat, I'd probably pick Wizard, Dawg, or Ice over either Tex or FF right now. I can't tell if Wizard is fooling me/us in this game, so I'm no help trying to sort that out. If that's what he needed to do because of the role he was assigned, he'd be good at it. Dawg and Ice are also excellent scum candidates at any time. I'd guess at this point that either one or two of these 6 names are evils.... it's highly unlikely that all 6 of these people are townies. (And yes, to those of you who want to suspect me for being the first vote on Lab.. feel free.)

1 Ice - Zaffy

Zaffy held onto his lone vote against Ice. I'll have to go back through the thread to re-read the case he presented against Ice now that I know Zaffy was innocent and see who else was either suspecting Zaffy or disagreeing with his posts.

2 Tex - Annie Razz

Two votes stayed on Tex. Either of those could be evil or innocent. Since they didn't vote with the others, I'll lean both of them as suspicious.

So what does all this tell me? Not a whole lot... yet. But as an early stab at Day 1 vote analysis, this is what I came up with.

Town - Lab, Zaffy, Zsand.
Unknown - Dag, DD.
Scummy - Tex, FF.
Top suspects based on votes - Wiz/Dawg/Ice (voted Lab), JL/Rich (voted FF), Annie/Razz (voted Tex).

Fish, you have some serious logic problems. (Breaking up FF's screwy post into sections.)



No kidding. Ya think? :headshake2:



That makes no sense, Fish. If DD knew Lab was innocent, DD has to be evil. None of the innocents on Day 1 know anybody else's role. Only the evil team knows who all the innocents are.



Okay.



This is also a pointless remark, Fish. You should not trust anyone. Do your own thinking, make your own judgements, and vote who YOU think is your best suspect.



Fish, Wizard and I were reading the thread, pulling quotes, and writing our posts at the same time (on different computers). That means we read the same posts at the same point in time while we were both here.

While I was browsing the thread, I saw Wizard's post where he said he thought Lab Rat was suspicious.. or he was thinking of voting her.. whatever.... just before I finished my post. I had just pulled the quotes I intended to include in my post and I voted her at the same time. In my mind, there was no reason for me to wait and think it over first. Lab Rat was a solid Day 1 vote based on her being so jittery and defensive. That was a heck of a lot better than picking someone randomly because Lab was already acting scummy.

Right after my post hit the thread, I saw Wizard had also posted a similar vote against Lab Rat right behind me (time-wise). His vote on Lab Rat didn't surprise me in any way... he'd already said he was considering the vote and he obviously made the same judgement about her that I'd made after reading the same information.

Go back and look at the posts we both made. Wizard's posts and mine were overlapping during that period of time. You really need to think things through and look beyond the tip of your own nose.



This is completely wrong, Fish. Go back and re-check who voted whom.



Uggh.. okay.



Okay.



This same argument is true for a lot of people.



A safe vote, Fish? Why, because you think it may keep you alive longer in the game? That's pure scummy reasoning trying to save yourself instead of helping the town.... even if that leads to your death.

For crying out loud, Fish, trying to make sense out of your posts is like trying to round up a bunch of cats. I read that to mean DD (as an innocent) didn't think Lab Rat was evil so she didn't vote her. And you applying the same (so-called) logic to anyone else who didn't vote Lab. That's why I pointed out the flawed reasoning because none of us "know" another person's role unless we're evil.

Now you're saying the opposite in DD's case AND you're voting her.

You really need to isolate people better than this and base your judgements on each person separately. To suggest "everyone" voting this way or "everyone" not voting that way is just being foolish. The real truth of the matter is most likely... some townies and some evils voted for so-and-so while some townies and some evils.. didn't.

^^ Adding to the above... we also know at least one (possibly two or all three) of the accomplices now as of Day 2 were regular townies still on Day 1. Their votes at nightfall would still have been made based on pro-town viewpoints but their voting after Day 1 would fall against the town.

Lmao... no, John. You've got the wrong wizard.

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I'll go catch up in the thread now... back soon.

All the above posts were made in the 1st 24 hours or so from night fall. She had to have gotten a PM so if I was invested and evil don't you think there would have been a bigger push for me?
She goes after FF alot, don't know if that means she invested him or just gut.Wouldn't be my choice for an invest.

As I've posted after nightfall Day 1, I could see I needed to reevaluate everything I'd been focused on that day. Instead of joining many of you who jumped on FF right away (for making idiotic posts), I held off... dropped my original suspects (which erroneously based on my belief Lab Rab was evil)... and tried to figure out who our focus (and mine) should be on instead of all the distracting stuff we let get in our (my) way.

As I pieced together some notes for myself to analyse the nightfall results.. particularly Zaffy's death by the Madman... I decided there was too much focus being placed on the stuff which occupied us and distracted us so much. I'd been looking for scum... and many of you hold me singly responsible today for Lab Rat's death. Okay then, so be it. Just remember two things about that. (1) My vote and posting called attention to Lab and her scummy/defensive behavior... but it was other people voting her who made that ultimate choice to kill her. Also (2) that Lab got banished because Lab Rat set herself up by her own actions.

Blame me now for that and kill me tonight if you want to. My individual death now is far less important than the benefit it leaves behind as the rest of you continue to analyze Day 1, Day 2, and so on. Just make sure you look closely at who supported my incorrect judgement that day and who else ensured that the wrong direction I took... prevailed with the death of an innocent.

There has been much made about the (very) long post I made where I talked about my suspects (following nightfall). Ice made a point to say he didn't like it... he intended to "pick it apart" later on. Yes, I'm quite sure he did... until he looked at it more closely. Ice changed his mind after that... instead of bringing even MORE attention to what I wrote, Ice decided to dismiss it completely... claiming it said nothing. Ice then went on to push me/Wizard as leading suspects after that.

I believe Ice wanted the rest of you to ignore what I said because there was something there he did NOT want you to focus on. Once he dismissed my notes as unimportant, the rest of you were likely to follow suit.

Then someone else posted something about the fact that I left off certain names... particularly JL, Ice, and Dawg. (I think that was Dag?) That isn't actually true.. in the early paragraphs I named those 3 already as suspicious right after discussing the significance of Zaffy's death. After pointing out what I said about those 3 people, I then went on to talk about the other players.

I'll repost a portion of that here now, with the more important items highlighted. This is a rough cut/paste thing, but someone can pull the original text later on.



Day 1.. while the town chased around in circles after Lab Rat and trudging through other distractions... we wasted time speculating about volunteers for accomplice roles.. Lab's behavior.. and the low level scummy players. What we did not look at were those players shrewd enough to recuit a townie PR to the evil team and smart enough to decide how important it would be for them to kill Zaffy. We're not looking for people dumb enough or self-focused enough to ask to join the madman... it's the madman himself who's been letting the town go the wrong direction.

Ice didn't want to pick my notes apart because his name was all over the place in what I wrote.. as was JL's and Dawg's too. So I believe Ice backed away and reconsidered that tactic either out of self preservation or to protect someone he was already associated with on scum side.

Because, Ice.. the 3 of you were already covered at the top of that message.. and again at the bottom. I didn't need to go over those suspicions again.

At the bottom of post 451 Wiz isn't colored as the rest of us are. Is that her way of saying he is innocent?

 

[dirtydawg10]

I agree with you on the 1st post. Kash was trying to get out that she thinks I am evil and that she voted Annie to protect herself.I also agree that Wiz contradicts himself.

I don't agree with your post that she knew something because I am not evil. If Kash had gotten a PM saying I was evil don't you think she would have posted a case earlier and not last second. You think she knew for 2 days I was evil and withheld the info? Kash was going on gut but the gut was wrong, as it was about Annie. Her case she was able to put out was based on either her not reading through and posting as she went and not getting to all my pointing back to the post. Or just misunderstanding. I think its the 1st scenario because I don't see how anyone could miss all the posts pointing back.

At least 2 of the PRs are still available through transfer but without the Det its going to be a long shot to win.One saving grace is a suitcase gives someone an identity so we really still have 1 invest available.

I agree that she didn't "know" I should have said to get out what she suspected was the case. I'm guessing you were her investigation last night. She also took time before nightfall to pull this previous post of her's...

I remember in one of my earlier games when DD was being lynched early on. Just before nightfall, she told us to not get caught up in all the little details and look at the overall picture instead. That was very good advice at the time in that game and it's something I try to remember for the rest of them. The best way I've found of doing that is to set aside what people say in their posts and look (more objectively) at voting patterns and such.

This being the first night and faced with 3 dead innocents... we still have very little to go on. But I've looked hard at where the votes fell to make an early estimation of role based on some generalities. Might as well, since my top suspect turned out to be innocent and the others I was leaning as most likely madman/accomplice were largely based on Lab being scum.

We don't know exactly how many evils there were yet before nightfall ended. I would expect whoever they were.. they would likely have scattered themselves among the top 3 candidates up for banishment, instead of all piling on just one.

From tonight's vote...

5 FF - JL Rich DD Dag Lab

Of the 5 votes on FF, we know Lab was innocent. I'm less inclined right now to suspect DD or Dag. That leaves either JL or Rich as likely evils from these players.

6 Lab - Kash Wiz Tex Dawg Ice FF

Of the 6 votes on Lab Rat, I'd probably pick Wizard, Dawg, or Ice over either Tex or FF right now. I can't tell if Wizard is fooling me/us in this game, so I'm no help trying to sort that out. If that's what he needed to do because of the role he was assigned, he'd be good at it. Dawg and Ice are also excellent scum candidates at any time. I'd guess at this point that either one or two of these 6 names are evils.... it's highly unlikely that all 6 of these people are townies. (And yes, to those of you who want to suspect me for being the first vote on Lab.. feel free.)

1 Ice - Zaffy

Zaffy held onto his lone vote against Ice. I'll have to go back through the thread to re-read the case he presented against Ice now that I know Zaffy was innocent and see who else was either suspecting Zaffy or disagreeing with his posts.

2 Tex - Annie Razz

Two votes stayed on Tex. Either of those could be evil or innocent. Since they didn't vote with the others, I'll lean both of them as suspicious.

So what does all this tell me? Not a whole lot... yet. But as an early stab at Day 1 vote analysis, this is what I came up with.

Town - Lab, Zaffy, Zsand.
Unknown - Dag, DD.
Scummy - Tex, FF.
Top suspects based on votes - Wiz/Dawg/Ice (voted Lab), JL/Rich (voted FF), Annie/Razz (voted Tex).

The quote within the quote states her suspicions of Me, You and Wiz. The part where she says...

I can't tell if Wizard is fooling me/us in this game, so I'm no help trying to sort that out. If that's what he needed to do because of the role he was assigned, he'd be good at it.

...that really stood out to me. Now Wiz comes out saying he agrees with Ice and appears to be protecting him now this morning by downplaying Kash's time crunch close to night and implying that she changed her mind about Ice. That is a bunch of :bs: