MAFIA #68, Mafia in SPACE game thread, revised and corrected.

[Zaffy]

Ok, so what is WIFOM?

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[Lab_Rat]

Lab, (sorry when I see LR I think "real life" so you are Lab to me)...Annie was in the lead at this point, so why do you mention Dag, Mollies and John but nothing about Annie?

Because it was left up to a coin toss between Annie and DD, and Annie could have easily jumped to DD to save himself. If that had happened, I'd think his teammates were trying to save him. I'm not sure what to think of Annie, other than he's always finding excuses not to post, whether he's scum or innocent.

 

[IceH2O]

Wow Lab. I could see a case for Bio with their last minute vote saving someone but for a team of 4 to throw 3 players on a person they think is a PR is a stretch. Not impossible but I don't see why they would out themselves this early in a game.
Your case against your brother is a bit suspect seeing as though you almost had him lynched over the word balls. Its true there wasn't much to go on for a Day 1 but were you really willing to let an innocent player die over the word balls? Doesn't seem so protown.I would however agree he seems to contridict himself in his before and after night fall posts.
What makes yesterday so hard was that 3 votes were the kill votes. No trains or good leads. Most of the votes could be labeled as weak if not all, including mine.
If I had to choose between Jpap and DD I would have voted DD. I thought her case was really weak and as much as she was going after Jpap I'd have expected a vote sooner then she did. But I also felt that it was to early for the evil team to go after someone so hard when votes were so spread out so I had DD on my watch list but it was to early to vote her.


This question is to Zaffy and Lab.Did you think DD had a good case against Jpap? If so why the vote on Dag and not Jpap? Why the vote on Lab,Zaffy? I believe your reasoning for your "safe" vote was

I don't have much to go on, but I think I may miss nightfall.

I vote to lynch Labrat for bringing up Annies colon. I know it's a terrible reason, but I really don't want to UD before I can actually play.

You posted at 7:50. 10 minutes before night. Did you still think Lab was your best vote?

Guess what I'm asking both of you, and only because you 2 are posting the most at this time, others can answer this too please...

If you HAD to choose between Jpap and DD, who would you have voted for and why?

 

[Lady G]

As I'm reading back through, things are making me wonder here...

Because I thought I had figured out a scum. I said I didn't think she was a crew member or another innocent primary role. Since she wasn't getting very much backing in her suspicions about Jpap I figured she wasn't a crew member otherwise they would have chimed in. On the other hand had she been mafia I don't think that other mafia would of played along with her suspicions this early in the game and outed themselves. My worst case scenario therefore was that she would end up being a colonist. Best case being that I was correct and that she was scum. Obviously I was wrong.

Aside from the fact that my mind never really changed about her up until she was ejected and shown to be the detective; why would I change my vote when it appeared that she wasn't going to be ejected? The final vote for her came exactly at 8:00.

You think you said she was scum? You actually said that you didn't think she's just a colonist. Which could mean you thought she was crew, or a PR. If I'm wrong there, please go ahead and quote yourself where you said that before nightfall.

Zaff you should pull the quotes you are refering to when questioning a person....did you read Bios post wrong, or were just trying to get others to go HMMM? You flat out say "You actually said that you DIDN"T think she was a colonist, if you look up at his actual words, he in fact said "I didn't think she was a crew member or other innocent PR"

 

[IceH2O]

Lab, (sorry when I see LR I think "real life" so you are Lab to me)...Annie was in the lead at this point, so why do you mention Dag, Mollies and John but nothing about Annie?

Good point.

Because it was left up to a coin toss between Annie and DD, and Annie could have easily jumped to DD to save himself. If that had happened, I'd think his teammates were trying to save him. I'm not sure what to think of Annie, other than he's always finding excuses not to post, whether he's scum or innocent.

What if Annie wasn't around to jump to save himself and Bio thought this was the best chance to save him. Otherwise why go to a tie? If Bio is evil why didn't he just vote Annie and have him taken out?

 

[Lady G]

Because it was left up to a coin toss between Annie and DD, and Annie could have easily jumped to DD to save himself. If that had happened, I'd think his teammates were trying to save him. I'm not sure what to think of Annie, other than he's always finding excuses not to post, whether he's scum or innocent.

I still don't really get your reason there, but ok. The only person the last minute pile up saved was Annie.

Wow Lab. I could see a case for Bio with their last minute vote saving someone but for a team of 4 to throw 3 players on a person they think is a PR is a stretch. Not impossible but I don't see why they would out themselves this early in a game.
Your case against your brother is a bit suspect seeing as though you almost had him lynched over the word balls. Its true there wasn't much to go on for a Day 1 but were you really willing to let an innocent player die over the word balls? Doesn't seem so protown.I would however agree he seems to contridict himself in his before and after night fall posts.
What makes yesterday so hard was that 3 votes were the kill votes. No trains or good leads. Most of the votes could be labeled as weak if not all, including mine.
If I had to choose between Jpap and DD I would have voted DD. I thought her case was really weak and as much as she was going after Jpap I'd have expected a vote sooner then she did. But I also felt that it was to early for the evil team to go after someone so hard when votes were so spread out so I had DD on my watch list but it was to early to vote her.


This question is to Zaffy and Lab.Did you think DD had a good case against Jpap? If so why the vote on Dag and not Jpap? Why the vote on Lab,Zaffy? I believe your reasoning for your "safe" vote was


You posted at 7:50. 10 minutes before night. Did you still think Lab was your best vote?

Guess what I'm asking both of you, and only because you 2 are posting the most at this time, others can answer this too please...

If you HAD to choose between Jpap and DD, who would you have voted for and why?

I just don't know Ice, when I was reading through the whole Doll/Pap thing I didn't know what I thought. I thought it was pretty early for either to act that way to the other. I couldn't really see Doll going after him that hard this early if she were evil. I saw the same thing with Pap, I just couldn't see him fighting that hard so early if evil either.

 

[Zaffy]

Wow Lab. I could see a case for Bio with their last minute vote saving someone but for a team of 4 to throw 3 players on a person they think is a PR is a stretch. Not impossible but I don't see why they would out themselves this early in a game.
Your case against your brother is a bit suspect seeing as though you almost had him lynched over the word balls. Its true there wasn't much to go on for a Day 1 but were you really willing to let an innocent player die over the word balls? Doesn't seem so protown.I would however agree he seems to contridict himself in his before and after night fall posts.
What makes yesterday so hard was that 3 votes were the kill votes. No trains or good leads. Most of the votes could be labeled as weak if not all, including mine.
If I had to choose between Jpap and DD I would have voted DD. I thought her case was really weak and as much as she was going after Jpap I'd have expected a vote sooner then she did. But I also felt that it was to early for the evil team to go after someone so hard when votes were so spread out so I had DD on my watch list but it was to early to vote her.


This question is to Zaffy and Lab.Did you think DD had a good case against Jpap? If so why the vote on Dag and not Jpap? Why the vote on Lab,Zaffy? I believe your reasoning for your "safe" vote was


You posted at 7:50. 10 minutes before night. Did you still think Lab was your best vote?

Guess what I'm asking both of you, and only because you 2 are posting the most at this time, others can answer this too please...

If you HAD to choose between Jpap and DD, who would you have voted for and why?

I don't think DD had a good case against Jpap. In my opinion it was regular day 1 talking in circles.

I thought Lab was a terrible vote. I said as much when I made it. I saw nothing that I thought changed anything. I don't do well on day 1, I'm not very good at intuition.

No matter how this question is answered no verifiable information is gained. If I'm scum, I can say I'd have voted for DD and look like I'm trying to be "honest" If I'm not scum I can say whatever and it can be twisted however you fell. The fact is, I didn't see anything that I felt warranted a vote change.

 

[Zaffy]

As I'm reading back through, things are making me wonder here...




Zaff you should pull the quotes you are refering to when questioning a person....did you read Bios post wrong, or were just trying to get others to go HMMM? You flat out say "You actually said that you DIDN"T think she was a colonist, if you look up at his actual words, he in fact said "I didn't think she was a crew member or other innocent PR"

I already pulled them in a previous post, he's the one arguing over what was said. My challenge to him still stands.

 

[Zaffy]

now that it's getting good I have to head out. I'll be back in a few hours, if I'm feeling awake I'll see you then.

 

[Lady G]

I already pulled them in a previous post, he's the one arguing over what was said. My challenge to him still stands.

What argument though, what you said he said...wasn't true? I just showed that in the quote did I not?