I have caught up on the thread, and thought a lot about the Rich/Pir thing. I believe Pir. At the same time, my vote will stay on Rich. This is because I believe Pir. For those of you asking why am I not voting Haydn, I say that if Pir is right, then Rich's RC proves him scum and he is much more dangerous to the town than Haydn.
I went back and looked through Pir and Rich's posts. Pir had been hinting for a long time that he knew Haydn was scum. I picked up on him being the detective way before he made it clear, and I believe the mafia did too. I can see Pir investigating Haydn since he had been asking questions of him for a lot of day 1. In fact, looking at Pir's behavior in general throughout day 1 supports what he says about wanting to focus on newbs. Haydn's behavior since Pir called him out further backs up Pir's claims in my mind. I find it hard to believe that a newb, non-communicating would be so calm, or quick to be a wise guy while on the chopping block. The logistical questions he's asked (what's a PR, when is nightfall) seem like BS to me. If I am to believe he's as quick to pick up on the game as to not get stressed when being voted off the island, then I find it hard to believe this was a mystery.
When I looked into Rich's posting, I was thinking back to a game not too long ago when Rich was indeed the detective. I don't remember what game it was exactly, but I think the role was termed "seer" that time. I'm not liking what I see. I was shocked to find Rich as one of the higher posters. And I'm happy to see this trend in recent games. :grinyes: But I also noticed that the increase in posts didn't exactly translate to an increase in content. In fact, it seems even his "game related" posts are filled with non-committal coated in vague-ity. Until it comes to throwing out baseless accusations.
I highly suspect JM. He has done everything he can to discredit Pir without even acknowledging the possibility of his claim being real. He has stayed calm through the whole exchange which I think we can all agree from recent games is probably through the help of a team, and having a den to communicate in. He seems to have a much better grasp on the thread as well, since he has mates to talk it over with before posting.
I also suspect User but don't have enough to really say why yet.