Mafia 88: Insane Asylum (Game Thread)

[[AC] xx_Nemesis_xx]

Vote Count (thru post 1048)

Driver (2) - O3T 988, BH 1000
BH (2) - nar 979, scoop 1011
RICK (2) - Tree 1032, UhOh 1037

No vote: chup, Driver, mael, Nem, RICK, Tib

Vote Count (thru post 1066)

BH (3) - nar 979, scoop 1011, RICK 1065
Driver (2) - O3T 988, BH 1000
RICK (2) - Tree 1032, UhOh 1037
UhOh (1) - chup 1054

No vote: Driver, mael, Nem, Tib

Yes, 75-90% was a way strong statement for day one, that is true. Probably not a good way to have put it, in hindsight...

Train Stuff:

This was what the vote count was when I voted for Nem (retracted from Gun, moved to Nem) \/ \/ \/

This is where YOU brought up the train stuff.

And this is where I responded to that. Both Nem, Scoop, and Nar had trains on them when I voted. I went with Nem. You also jumped onto the HH-Train, even if it was the correct train. So tell me, how did it go from that to me talking about trains?


I do not want people to ignore my posts, in fact it's rather annoying when they do.

I was, as I've said before, not at my best. So it makes sense that I didn't remember my list.

Ok, since we will never agree on the list issue, we will just have to agree to disagree. IMHO, lists cause people to focus on only the ones on their list, and then they could miss something that someone else posted. Without a list, they will look at all people evenly. That's my honest opinion on the subject. The "list" I posted was solely for the purpose of better showing my thoughts on the people I had looked into beforehand.

Wow... you see, this is why I should look back at my own posts more often... epic fail, on me. So Rickets wasn't even on his list... dang... ok, now Ima try and see if I can remember what on earth I was thinking at the time that put his name on the list...

Will be back soon, gotta go so some stuff for school and SAT's...

First things first I am not old Nem. Yes we have the same role but I am a different player behind that role.

The initial train comment was definitely not a factual statement by the old Nem. However, you somehow tried to turn things around on the old Nem and in doing so referred to the voting on "me" and scoop as trains. By definition I am not sure how you can have two trains...and I certainly do not look at a 3-3-2-1-1, etc. voting pattern and see any train whatsoever.

My main point was that you decided to give people crap for voting HH...why?

 

[[AC] Tiburon321]

Vote Count (thru post 1066)

BH (3) - nar 979, scoop 1011, RICK 1065
Driver (2) - O3T 988, BH 1000
RICK (2) - Tree 1032, UhOh 1037
UhOh (1) - chup 1054

No vote: Driver, mael, Nem, Tib

So one of my top (BH) and one of my almost top (O3T) suspects are voting for another of my top suspects (Driver). Another of my top (RICK) and almost top suspect (Scoop) are voting for another top suspect (BH). The only one of my top suspects that another top suspect isn't voting for is Rickets.

I realize this ties things up, but there is still enough time before nightfall to change this vote if needed to avoid a tie. I vote to lynch Rickets.

 

[[AC] xx_Nemesis_xx]

Ugghhhh...I don't like how Rick voted BH to put them in the lead and because of that I am not sure I want to vote BH. I really don't want to vote alongside my "top" suspect either. Voting for UhOh makes things way too close for my liking.

I vote to lynch Rickets

Hopefully I don't regret this...

 

[Madcrawdad]

Vote Count (thru post 1093)

RICK (4) - Tree 1032, UhOh 1037, Tib 1092, Nem 1093
BH (3) - nar 979, scoop 1011, RICK 1065
Driver (2) - O3T 988, BH 1000
UhOh (1) - chup 1054

No vote: Driver, mael

Nightfall in 4 1/4 hours (8 pm CST). PMs as required, please.

 

[[AC] BadHaggis]

First things first I am not old Nem. Yes we have the same role but I am a different player behind that role.

The initial train comment was definitely not a factual statement by the old Nem. However, you somehow tried to turn things around on the old Nem and in doing so referred to the voting on "me" and scoop as trains. By definition I am not sure how you can have two trains...and I certainly do not look at a 3-3-2-1-1, etc. voting pattern and see any train whatsoever.

My main point was that you decided to give people crap for voting HH...why?

I gave the late voters on HH crap because they were late voters, not just because they voted him. Sheesh, why didn't you ask that before, we've been going in circles... The late voters seemed, to me, to be jumping on the bandwagon to make themselves look good. Wether or not that was true is another thing entirely, and it is now day 4, so I have had more time to judge people's posting.

 

[[AC] xx_Nemesis_xx]

BH, would you mind addressing the rest of my response, namely the stuff in bold?

That was a VERY strong and suspicious statement for D1

Yes, old Nem called it a train, however, neither scoop nor old Nem had trains on them at the time. That was my point.

So your 75-90% was based mainly on gut feel? What about the fact that you said regarding Nem "I agree with several arguments on him."? I believe you even offered a few quotes when questioned. Seems like there was more than just gut there yet both practically dropped off the face of the earth by D2.

I wasn't doubting your excuses, or reasons or whatever you want to call them. But in context with you actual gameplay I cannot just ignore your posts like you want people to...

No cases of your own? Didn't you just vote for Tib and present a list of reasons the night before? Sure, half of it was based on what scoop said but I am pretty sure you said yourself that you would have picked up on those things whether scoop said them first or not. Why didn't you even consider voting for Tib again? And yes, hindsight is 20-20. Gun was innocent and you didn't vote gun initially...big whoop. Fact is you moved to gun based off of a shoddy post that the OP never even labeled as a case or a reason they would vote for Gun. Yet you named that as your main case when voting. I find it funny that your excuse for a no vote was that you didn't have a case of your own but when you did vote you used another person's post...

So now you are making amendments to your rule? Before it was no lists because they are distracting, and now it is unless necessary...isn't for the purpose of rooting out scum enough reason to keep a list? My problem with your day-to-day style is that it is a nice way for scum to cover tracks. Lists at least give concrete indication as to who suspects are. Without them people have to dig more to find the inconsistencies. And as for wing's list, the point is that Rick wasn't even on the list you quoted yet you bumped your name off of it when it was in the second spot and for some reason added Rick.




Can you please explain again how knowing my role would help you with the "complete picture"?

 

[[AC] xx_Nemesis_xx]

I gave the late voters on HH crap because they were late voters, not just because they voted him. Sheesh, why didn't you ask that before, we've been going in circles... The late voters seemed, to me, to be jumping on the bandwagon to make themselves look good. Wether or not that was true is another thing entirely, and it is now day 4, so I have had more time to judge people's posting.

How does jumping on a bandwagon "make themselves look good"?

Unless of course you knew that HH was scum already...voting for an innocent never makes anyone look good...

 

[[AC] RICKETS]

@Rickets: So the fact that he hasn't done anything to really help the town yet means nothing to you? And the fact he was both there, active, and more the able to tell others to dig, but didn't, means nothing to you? And then, on top of that, he did so repeatedly. That just oozes scum to me, but each to their own...

Being a bad player doesn't make a person scum.

Can you please explain again how knowing my role would help you with the "complete picture"?

Because you went neck and neck with HH, a known scum, it would be very helpful to know your role when determining which direction people went.

Right now my top suspects are as follows: (I'm not at home right now, so my notes aren't available to me.)

BadHaggis - Nigth 1 Voting pattern, overall fluff posting, Inconsistency in posting.

Rickets - Calling out the Detective. Bizarre flawed logic about voting pattens.

Old3toes - Overall fluffy posting

Tree/Mael - Night 1 voting pattern.

So I guess this is my list:

BH- overall inconsistency in gameplay from day to day

Driver- calling people out for not posting and then doing absolutely no digging of their own

Rickets- flawed logic regarding the N1 voting

UhOh- a lot of "digging" only to conveniently jump on Gun yesterday

My vote will likely be placed in the near future.

Just because it implicates you does not make it bad logic.

 

[[AC] RICKETS]

Tib and Nem are really on the same wavelength with their nearly simultaneous votes for me. Who else wants to save BH tonight? In fact Nem's "reason" is just because they don't like my vote which put BH ahead... Newsflash, it was a self-preservation vote on a person I suspect. Shocking I know. It's easy to lose track of the fact that there are innocents left in this game sometimes...

 

[[AC] xx_Nemesis_xx]

Rick: Did you even read my response to your post?

How can you attempt to crucify someone voting for scum when in order for that scum to be lynched that vote would have to have been placed at some point? If Nar didn't tie the votes by voting HH when they did Nem might have been lynched. Or maybe Mael or Tree would have been the fourth vote instead of Nar just by pure luck of timing. What you are doing is placing suspicion on a vote place rather than the person behind it...

Please read post #1053 of mine and then tell me that what you are saying about Nar makes any bit of sense.