Mafia 95 - "Mayor's Mansion" (The Play)

No, as a N1 innocent read is useless this game.

It's one thing for the detective to pull his vote off scum, another for him to completely retract any suspicion of someone he's gotten a confirmed scum read on.
So, do you really think MC would of mentioned a "innocent" find, knowing that it really mean's nothing at that point?

I think he would of retracted his vote and "suspicion" at the time he did, to try and possibly make the mafia not think he was detective if he did indeed invest Doll and she came up scum, because they would possibly think just like you are saying here.
 
She also was posting on Facebook last night...


You gotta start somewhere. Had them leaning innocent, as in slightly out of neutral. Never said I was 100% sure either was innocent. I've found myself agreeing a lot with Pappy and I can understand where Wiz was coming from. Looking back on it even more, since both FF and Spencer did in fact show innocent, I don't think Wiz would have made such a racket about not voting them if he was scum.
LOL, are you a face book stalker :evil_lol:

Right, but what you had seen from them (day 1 and 2) you lean them innocent.

So Mad, I know you questioned (or said something to) UN, about "leaning" ppl innocent...what is your take on Labby naming two?
 
One thing has been bothering me.

We have all played scum with G before. Even though her story is holier than swiss cheese, it seems that I don't recall her being all over the thread begging for her life before.

She has always said to her scum mates to vote her if necessary. Her posting the past couple of days is out of character for a scum G.

I think it was JB that said I was playing a simplistic game. And he is right. I have been looking at the posts and seeing backtracking and flip flopping and voting them. As a result, we have been losing townies.

We all need to step back and rethink. We have the best players in the game in this game. We won't find much if anything that sticks out with some of them if they are scum they are that good.

That is where I will be looking for my vote tonight.

Glad to see some form of agreement. It feels more like a bad day one in here right now. I wonder if FF contaminated the thread before dieing...:evil_lol:

Have no clue where to vote at this moment...re-reading some stuff....but right now, I don't get any real scummy vibes from Lady G or Labby....not that there is much more on some others than maybe poor posting at the wrong time...
 
As far as the second question...Yes I have played with MC before. I would say he is more logical than methodical but he does also shoot from the hip at times. I would say the early DD vote seems out of character for him unless he had a strong feeling that DD was scum.

MC logical? Really?
 
Where is LG begging for her life? Until she decided to ask me to take a step back she's been trying to throw it right back at me, specifically saying I "twisted" MC's posts.

Wiz, it's bothering me that you also had an "epiphany" before N1. Do you know something about the lynches that us townies don't?

What I know about the lynches is that both of them were innocent. One of the two being Detective. I see D3 going the same way D1 and 2 did. You don't find it disturbing that we seem to be hung up on 2 and 3 dog races?

I do, it makes a perfect spot for scum to hide and looking at vote history is useless when half the town votes the same person.

I am sorry if my epiphany as you put it from D1 bothers you. When I think I am barking up the wrong tree there is no shame in admitting it and moving on to the next tree. I think some of the players in this game should think about that. I would rather say I think I am wrong while there is still time to change the outcome than to wait and say oops I was wrong.

I have stared at these posts hours on end and as I have posted every one up for the lynch posted questionable things. But thes 2 and 3 horse races have to end. we are doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. I believe that is akin to the definition of insanity.

Yes I know that every time I switch course it draws attention to me but my epiphany D1 was right. No I did not know for sure but I told Mad when I ignore my gut I often wish I didn't. If I were scum why would I have done that on D1 instead of let it run it's course? I was on FF early enough to not draw attention to myself.

@ Chill, You posting FF's posting times in other threads is what got me looking into him in the first place. Then you didn't even vote him but just flopped on to DD.
You state that you like me for scum but all you base that on is my reversal on D1. Not logical if your regard is as you posted earlier in the game I would be too smart to do that if scum. Your case is mighty weak my friend.

I have a lot to go through as I need to find where my vote should go and hopefully end up on scum. I am still here though.
 
LOL, are you a face book stalker :evil_lol:

Right, but what you had seen from them (day 1 and 2) you lean them innocent.

So Mad, I know you questioned (or said something to) UN, about "leaning" ppl innocent...what is your take on Labby naming two?
Lol, I was checking FB right before I went to bed last night and noticed she's posted something on the feed. Thought it was odd if she could do that but not check into the game at least.

As for who I'm leaning innocent, I think my color coded list illustrates how I feel about people. It's not changed too much since I posted it, though I'd make Wiz blue now.
 
So, do you really think MC would of mentioned a "innocent" find, knowing that it really mean's nothing at that point?

That's how a detective should play...bread-crumbing clues (without getting caught), so in the event they're lynched or hit the investigations aren't wasted. I can't say with certainty that is what MC was doing, but it would make the most sense to me.

So Mad, I know you questioned (or said something to) UN, about "leaning" ppl innocent...what is your take on Labby naming two?

Doesn't bother me as much. We're on D3, and Labby has explained her feelings (based on the players' actions) pretty well. UN was talking about leaning Chill innocent based on DD's alignment, IIRC. We don't know DD's alignment, so leaning Chill in any direction (based on her alignment) doesn't seem like a sound move to me.
 
So you're ok with your vote on her... meaning you think she's the scummiest, but you're still taker her blaming of Pappy seriously? I don't get how you can see things both ways.
but you're still taking...
 
That's how a detective should play...bread-crumbing clues (without getting caught), so in the event they're lynched or hit the investigations aren't wasted. I can't say with certainty that is what MC was doing, but it would make the most sense to me.

Doesn't bother me as much. We're on D3, and Labby has explained her feelings (based on the players' actions) pretty well. UN was talking about leaning Chill innocent based on DD's alignment, IIRC. We don't know DD's alignment, so leaning Chill in any direction (based on her alignment) doesn't seem like a sound move to me.
Even if the invest really means nothing at that point, you still think the "bread-crumbing" clues would be the thing to do?

You asked me and you asked Dawg if we had played with MC before, how about you...do you think his vote on Doll was a normal move for MC, could you see him doing that as a detective had he not investigated her?

Yes, but Labby has been saying since day 1 she thought Wiz was innocent, and the post with MC's vote (and the insert of Pap) were from day 2 and she said at that time (which would of been day 2) she thought Pap was innocent...you don't think that is to early to lean anyone innocent? I agree that UN and Labby are different but you don't think day 1 or day 2 is kinda early to lean someone (especially some of our better players) innocent?
 
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