Pit Bull bans...WTF?
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A big problem with pitbulls is that they are often used for fighting. I didn't realize how popular this was until I saw it first hand. I met a lot of people who measure their toughness by the tenacity of their pitbull. (They also have mullets and drive IROCS 
.) It's pathetic. It was going on all over my neighboorhood and I had no idea.
It's the meat heads that I mentioned above whose dogs end up mauling people.
These people would slap their dogs in the face while running them on a treadmills. The dogs were kept out in the cold on heavy chains tied to cinder blocks to make them 'tougher'. I have also heard of people feeding the dogs gun powder to intentionally cause them to go insane.
As a dog lover I appreciate the breeding that went into the pit bull. It is a beatiful, athletic, sporty dog that is all heart. However, I wouldn't have one in the house with my toddler. There jaws might not lock but I have seen someone have to use a break-stick to pry one off his forearm.
I will take my chances with my mildly retarded Bassett Hound
.) It's pathetic. It was going on all over my neighboorhood and I had no idea.It's the meat heads that I mentioned above whose dogs end up mauling people.
These people would slap their dogs in the face while running them on a treadmills. The dogs were kept out in the cold on heavy chains tied to cinder blocks to make them 'tougher'. I have also heard of people feeding the dogs gun powder to intentionally cause them to go insane.
As a dog lover I appreciate the breeding that went into the pit bull. It is a beatiful, athletic, sporty dog that is all heart. However, I wouldn't have one in the house with my toddler. There jaws might not lock but I have seen someone have to use a break-stick to pry one off his forearm.
I will take my chances with my mildly retarded Bassett Hound
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I was on the side with pit bulls also and how they shouldn't be banned. But after I heard a story I don't know. Well I found out that the place where I got my cat Spikey 
nine years ago, something happened. The place had a pet cat which was the places cat. Well a couple months ago, someone brought a pit bull in, and the dog got a hold of the cat just sleeping on the desk and ripped it apart. Poor thing. It makes me think, if a little kid got in a yard with a pit bull in it, the kid would be a gonner. Or any small animal for that matter also.
nine years ago, something happened. The place had a pet cat which was the places cat. Well a couple months ago, someone brought a pit bull in, and the dog got a hold of the cat just sleeping on the desk and ripped it apart. Poor thing. It makes me think, if a little kid got in a yard with a pit bull in it, the kid would be a gonner. Or any small animal for that matter also.
What if the dog that did that was a basset, or a poodle? would you want to ban it?Tetras_Rule33 said:
People get pitties because they are affectionate and loving creatures (or because they are thugs and need to compensate for other problems)... I do believe that I posted the breed tempermant tests on here... yes? Pitties passed at the same level as "safe" breeds such as goldens, and much better than some other "safe" breeds. My next dog will probably be a "bad" breed... dobie or pittie, why? Because I have read far more good than bad about them when you move away from the media... I also find them incredibly beautiful.
Here's the stats again:
http://www.atts.org/statistics.html
The instance with the cat is prey drive not aggression. There is a BIG difference.
Where's the referenced little kids parents? Would you think the same thing if the kid got in the yard with a labrador and was mauled? No, you'd probably still believe labs were safe.
For those who won't let their kids play at a house with a pitbull, you might want to reconsider how you approach this. The key to bite prevention is education... do your kids know how to safely approach a dog? Do they know basic dog body language (like tail wagging doesn't always mean the dog is happy to see you). The next is, how can you rule out pits but allow your kids to go to houses with other large breeds? You don't know the dogs, but you let your kids go anyway? That makes no sense to me.
And, whomever smacked their dog for "barking viciously" at a child you may want to rethink your methods... next time your dog may not give a warning and jump strait to biting. Your dog was telling you it was uncomfortable with the situation and you gave it a reason to think that it had a right to be uncomfortable.
My point is.... no breed is born meaner or more vicious than another. No large breed is inherently more dangerous than the other based soley on temperament. It's the owner's responsibility to train and socialize their dog and it's the parent's responsibility to educate their child. Plain and simple common sense.
BTW, pitties were bred to be dog aggressive... people were constantly in the dog-fighting rings and still are. It makes NO sense that they would then be prone to human aggression tendancies... dogs that were would have been killed. Am staffs were selectively bred from pitties for the show ring... would it make sense to have people aggressive am staffs in a show ring?
As far as muzzling every dog over 20lb... if you want to implement that.... that every dog should be muzzled.
*Edit: Sorry I posted that link to the temperament test on a different thread.
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I dunno about you but I am more inclined to believe the real statistics that pit bulls, and rottweilers, have more fatalities than other breeds.
CNN does their homework, and they dont post false statistics.
Or you could believe the atts.org site which I could make in 15 mins with Front Page...
Which BTW I did not see any stats on that site.
True, CNN might cover the "Better" stories, but they do not lie about their statistics.
CNN does their homework, and they dont post false statistics.
Or you could believe the atts.org site which I could make in 15 mins with Front Page...
Which BTW I did not see any stats on that site.
True, CNN might cover the "Better" stories, but they do not lie about their statistics.
zacdl said:
I refuse to take as fact any "statistics" from a person who tried to tell us the US has "Attack Dolphins".
Statistics can be distorted to support either argument. For instance, the stats you are referring to do not mention how many of those fatalities came as a result of trespass where the dog was a guard dog. They also only mention fatalities, not just attacks. The fact that half the fatal attacks came from powerful dogs is not exactly shocking. That's like saying half the shooting deaths in this country were a result of bullets.
This article even states that there isn't enough information in this study to determine which breeds are most likely to attack which makes it a pretty limited study. Not exactly a smoking gun.
I think the mechanics of the dog have to be considered here. A Pit Bull has the highest PSI of crushing power of any dog in the world. They can crush bone very easily. That, in and of itself, isn't dangerous, because the dog isn't born with the desire to hurt anyone other than prey. But when you combine that with the thugs that want a "guard dog", you have a child mauling waiting to happen. A bassett or a Poodle simply cannot inflict the kind of trauma that a Pit Bull can, that's an absurd comparisson.. I don't support a ban on the dog any more than I support a ban on handguns. However, I do support strict licensing for them. You can't drive a car without taking a test. You can't buy a gun without a background check. You can't own a Tiger without a license. Why should you be able to own a potentially lethal animal without proving you have the capacity to properly train that animal? Same goes for Rotts, Dobermans, German Shepards and any other breed of similar reputation.
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