Pit Bull rant

[Calico Goat]

i think a pittbull or rottwiler should be put down becouse of there natural instinked some say dobermans should be put down but they are gaured dogs and never attack

I met a pit bull once, and he was the sweetest dog. I've never met a rottweiler, but I have met many boxers, and no dog was a problem dog. I don't think you should condemn an animal because of a stereotype...and all dogs are bred from a hunting instinct. All have the potential to cause some deal of harm. And YES, dobermanns can attack!

 

[sublime1184]

UGH! do you know why piranhas are illegal in so many states? its because OWNERS release them into the wild. Not for any other reason. They are not crazy killers. Its the same with these "vicious" dogs, a misinformed public that believes anything. I find that most dogs are vicious because they were abused, teased and tortured. My grandfather's neighbor has the coolest german shepard....it has the "mean" look but is as nice as can be...I pet it and walk it around the block every so often...in the yard if the owner tells it to calm down and that I'm not a bad guy, it stops being so territorial so that i can get in and even toss the ball around with it. Although most judge these dogs by first look and bark, I would just say you need to realize that its protecting its territory. Just like Piranhas and other aggressive fish, some are just that, and some are timid and calm. But if you mess with it, its gonna stick up for itself, no doubt. It depends on the animal, the owner and the upbringing.

 

[zazz]

I have a 6 year old , 65 lb mixed breed. She is gentle as can be with people. puts up with anything a toddler can dish out, and plays well with people of all diferent sizes and abilities.
However she has become agressive with other dogs. (not going for a kill, but could definitely cause injury)
This could be for a lot of reasons, including , I suppose, early experiences,she was about One Year Old when I got her. It could reflect mistakes I made in training her I suppose. (i never mistreated her) I am sure it involves all sorts of doggie instincts, territory,protection, ranking.. any number of things.
However
1) She has absolutely no pitt in her.
I am VERY sorry about the minpin! that must have been SO scary! For you And your dog.
I hope you don't blame the breed. My sweetlooking dog could have done the same thing if she were off the leash.
Please dont take this wrong, but maybe think about it:
If the pitt had been a bloodthirsty dog, your minpin would have been dead very quickly IMO. whatever else is said about them, pitbulls are Very strong.
I wasn't there of course, so i may be wrong. I just urge you not to add to the anti pit hysteria.
As nursie put it, we need to target the behavior, and not any breeds.
Back yard breeding Of dogs for fighting is disgusting and needs to be targeted and wiped out. targeting certain breeds wont help.
If it were up to me, there would be no dog breeding at all, at least untill all the currently living dogs were cared for healthy etc. (but then, im funny that way, i sort of feel the same way about humans....)

As far as my NON pit, dog agressive dog,
I never ever ever let her off leash outide.
This is really hard because she loves to run, and Most of the time she is
fine with other dogs, but it really is necessary.(I have long rope so she can have a swim and am working on a secure yard for her, she can jump a 5 foot fence! )
:OT: I considered putting a muzzle on my dog so that she could maybe be off leash occasionally.(in appropriate places) She listens well and all.
But i can't get her to accept one. does any dogowner out there have any advice?

 

[Matak]

Anyone want to take another swing? I mean, the horse has only been dead for a few years, why not?

Anyone see anything new (other than personal reports, relevant to the individual but not info that's going to sway anyone's opinion one way)? Hmmmm...If nothing new is coming up, why does this topic come up about once a month?

Anyone get the feeling that I'm tired of re-reading all this?

You know the order OG. First the euthanasia thread, then this rant, then a quiet spell for two weeks, then the creationist bashing thread. ♪The wheels on the bus... ♪♫

 

[sky.eyes.woman]

Well, I read about the dead horse and all, but I have to put my 2¢ in...I've seen a few posts saying dogfighting should be made illegal. IT IS. People get arrested for it all the time. Breeding or training dogs for the purpose of fighting is illegal and so is hosting a dogfight on ANY property, private or otherwise. But it still happens. Outlawing a certain breed of dog is not a solution to the problem of attacks on other dogs or people, because when pit bulls are outlawed, only outlaws will have pit bulls. It's illegal to smoke crack too, but dumb people are out there doing it every day anyway.

 

[nursie]

Matak..OG...I know that this has been done to death. There are always new players involved, and I feel strongly enough about this that I can't let sleeping dogs lie.
You forgot to list the gun control rant too. I have the same view..guns are not the problem, it's the people. Target the behavior. My husband's shotgun on the wall over the fireplace isn't going to hop off and shoot anyone on it's own.

 

[125gJoe]

Matak..OG...I know that this has been done to death. .... ....
You forgot to list the gun control rant too. I have the same view..guns are not the problem, it's the people. Target the behavior. My husband's shotgun on the wall over the fireplace isn't going to hop off and shoot anyone on it's own.

I need to jump in here and say all those cattle mutilating aliens need to be banned!
:joe:

 

[zazz]

OK thats it.
If i hear One more wakko talk about BAnning cattle mutilating aliens, i am OUT of here!
ban this, ban that, what next?
do you have ANY idea where we would be with out those mutilating aliens??
what next, outlaw crop circles??
mymymy
what have we come to? what happenned to live and let mutilate?

 

[125gJoe]

OK thats it....
...

what happenned to live and let mutilate?

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Guess that could apply to dogs too!

 

[JinxXx0085]

Matak..OG...I know that this has been done to death. There are always new players involved, and I feel strongly enough about this that I can't let sleeping dogs lie.
You forgot to list the gun control rant too. I have the same view..guns are not the problem, it's the people. Target the behavior. My husband's shotgun on the wall over the fireplace isn't going to hop off and shoot anyone on it's own.

I agree about gun control too! We have rifles and handguns here and heck no they aren't gonna jump up and go on shooting rampage! :hang:

Outlawing a certain breed of dog is not a solution to the problem of attacks on other dogs or people, because when pit bulls are outlawed, only outlaws will have pit bulls.

Well said!!! :thm: