Python questions

bazil323

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I'm thinking about taking the plunge and getting a Python. Those who've had them seem to love them, and I'm getting sick of lugging buckets all over. My shoulder isn't too happy about it either.

But, I just want to make sure that it's really something that I want to deal with.

1. How do you make sure that the hot/cold water mix is correct? The water goes right from the faucet to the tank, right? Right now I'm checking the temp by running the water until I get the right mix and then start filling buckets and hauling it to the tank.

2. How do you get suction going, especially if you're running it out a window to the garden or whatever?
 
To get the temperature right I just leave the bottom valve open and the water running into the sink. Then when it's right I close the valve and it diverts the water to the tank. Just make sure you have the shut-off valve in the middle closed before you do this, otherwise you'll end up with water all over the other room.

The same mid-point shut-off valve works to stop the syphon. I get it started by running the water in the sink, then stop it with the shut-off valve and turn off the water, making sure to leave the end in the tank under water. I then disconnect the other end and drop it into the bathtub. Once I reopen the shut-off valve there is still sufficient suction to clean the gravel/change the water.

I love the python. It makes water changes much quicker and easier. The only problem that I have had is that the pressure builds quickly when the water is on and the shut-off valve is closed. If I don't dash into the other room and open it, I risk water spraying out of the faucet connection all over the bathroom.
 
i check the temp the same way, by leaving the valve at the sink open until the temp is right and then closing it so water goes into the hose. but i prime (dechlorinate) the tank first, put the hose in there (but not so it reaches the surface of the water) and then i don't have to worry about the other shot-off valve being closed. if you do it my way, you don't want the end of the hose to be in the water because then as you are testing the water temp it will create suction. once i turn the water on to go into the hose i "race" the water to the tank just because i want to make sure it doesn't fall out of the tank (never has anyway) and that there are no fish directly underneath when the water comes out.

I don't bother using the sink valve to siphon. i just drain right out the door into the grass.
 
Okay, that clears up some of my confusion. I don't need to treat my water for anything (well water). I do have a brackish tank that I'll probably keep doing the bucket thing so that I can properly mix the salt.

Are there any cheaper brands that work as well as the Python? I think I saw something in a Drs. Foster & Smith catalog, but I can't remember for sure.
 
i love my python. it cut my cleaning time by over half. the python was pretty expensive but worth the money. if your trying to save some money there is some great DIY threads on here that explain how to make one
 
i check the temp the same way, by leaving the valve at the sink open until the temp is right and then closing it so water goes into the hose. but i prime (dechlorinate) the tank first, put the hose in there (but not so it reaches the surface of the water) and then i don't have to worry about the other shot-off valve being closed. if you do it my way, you don't want the end of the hose to be in the water because then as you are testing the water temp it will create suction. once i turn the water on to go into the hose i "race" the water to the tank just because i want to make sure it doesn't fall out of the tank (never has anyway) and that there are no fish directly underneath when the water comes out.

I don't bother using the sink valve to siphon. i just drain right out the door into the grass.

I use the same method except I use the sink valve to siphon.

As far as another brand, Lee makes one, I've seen it on BigAls......its a few dollars less but haven't heard a thing about this brand. Although, Lee's does make a bunch of aquarium supplies.
 
To put the cost into perspective though, it is something that will last a long time and be used at least once a week. It's a great investment. I've had mine for 10 years and never had to replace any parts. Just like others have said, I LOVE my python!
 
Does anyone know where I can get a Python in the UK? Or at least find a shipper to the UK?

I first saw this in one of my Cichlid books, it was like a page advertisement with some woman from the late 70's on it. Made with PRIDE in America. I need a Python.

Thanks.
 
First - let me start off by saying I really couldn't do without my python, for me it is not only worth the money but an absolute necessity. That being said, I am on my third, the first two were actual pythons the third is Lees version. I have made quite a few adaptations in my use of this product over the last several years for a variety of reasons I'll list below. If you are wondering WHY so MANY, well I've got a whole lot of systems running and I've cut down quite a bit in the last year. (currently: 3 55gal, 4 20Lgal, and 2 set ups that each consist of 5 plumbed heavy duty tubs with each tub holding just under 30 gallons of water - yeah a bit overmuch).
First python worked great, until I left the water on with the shot off valve closed for too long (about 10 min - a big don't) and the main valve that connected to the faucet cracked - not a fixable situation and when I went to order a replacement I found that exchanging the entire unit for a new one at the place of purchase was just plain easier.
Move forward about 12 months, and this time my son apparently did something similar and not being willing to wait for a replacement part I ran up to my local walmart after discovering they carried the Lees version and there is #3.
As to the difference between the two systems - color: python green, lees blue, Lees had the addition of a 'pre-filter' on the siphon tube to prevent fish loss (a nice addition that easily removes to use both ways). My LFS only carries Python but the walmart carries both, about $48 for the python and about $37 or so for the lees - I bought one for my niece last September. The parts on both systems are mostly interchangeable (lees seems to have copied python making only minor changes) and I've 'cannibalized' parts from one to support the other.
I know that python provides additional tubing for lengthening the run out of the hose, I've tried using a garden hose to extend - lost power though, at longer lengths suction power from the basement won't take it up and out to ground level for me, on the first floor - no problem.
I actually move the siphon between 2 different bathroom sinks and have used a Y shaped garden hose divider as a semi-permanent add on in the basement bathroom - makes hook-up faster & allows for bypassing the siphon system with the turn of a valve, and I purchased metal adapters at my local hardware store for the sinks (the plastic ones wear out with each attachment & reattachment) for less than the python offered 'upgrades'.
One of my biggest battles was tank water splashing out of a shallow bathroom sink when draining. The only 'solution' I've come up with for that is covering the whole sink and faucet area with a towel - which ends up soaked after a couple of tanks - but better the towel than the floor.
All in all it is an effective system - works far better in a kitchen sink, but I keep turtles in my tanks and don't want that water in the kitchen - it's a trade off.
Personal experience: one of the absolute best parts of the python is that younger children and non-hobbyists are able and much more willing to help with water maintenance when touching of the tank water is not necessary and I am able to go it alone without breaking my back or trashing the house with tank water spilling from buckets.
Definitely worth the investment (especially if you can avoid that $89 petco price).
One last word of warning, NEVER walk away when tanks are filling, even if you have secured the tubing to avoid spraying out of the tank, and don't fall asleep... (:eek3: yeah I did that).
 
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