Setting up a Small Tank with Cichlids - 29g - Looking for Advice

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AcydFlames

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Now before I get too many people tell me that a 29g is TOO SMALL for a cichlid tank (I know you we're thinking it when you saw the thread :)), let me explain. I don't really have room for anything larger (this tank is in my bedroom, and as I would of course love a 125+ gallon tank, it just isn't realistic in there). Also, my other tank is a 28g and I've become accustomed to the maintenance involved with that, and wasn't really looking to take on a second huge tank, maintenance-wise. So, me and the wife went shopping, and she initially liked an odd size 16g hex tank, but I talked her into the slightly cheaper (go figure) regular rectangle 29g. And long story short, it's now cycling in my bedroom with a couple of live plants and 2 danios. Its about 2 weeks in now, and I'm of course getting anxious to stock it!

We decided up front that we both wanted this to be a cichlid tank. The level of personality is what got us, I think; they act and swim in a way all their own. So for the last few weeks, I've been trying to figure out what to put into the tank. I’m new to cichlids, but not to fish. I enjoy doing my homework before diving in. But this is where I'm hitting a wall. She absolutely loves the colors of some of the African cichlids at the LFS (the blues, and electric yellows come to mind right now), and has a strong opposition to the SAs that are in the tanks next to them. For some reason, all of the SAs in any of the LFS that I'm visiting are all a dull drab color compared to the Africans, mostly earthtoned browns and grays. I see all of these nice photos online, so I know that colorful SAs exist, they just don't seem to be local for me.

The problem with the Africans is that most of them get too large. The Petsmart that I was looking at even labeled one with a max size of 3" (almost perfect size for me), but when I got home to do more research, turns out that particular one gets 7"! A little disheartening :headshake2: as it kills my chance at that one. If I remember correctly, that one was a Blue Acei, but don’t quote me on it.

So I can't trust the labels on the tanks at the LFS, and most places online will list the fish with a pretty high minimum tank size (and for a lot of species, I understand that they NEED the space). But I know there are options out there, and that's why I'm turning to you guys for a little advice.

Here's the ultimate goal, a small collection of fish, with a nice collection of color and impact. What can I say, the wife wants color in the tank!

A little info on the tank... it's pretty bare right now. It's a glass aquarium, with black gravel (which has a slightly smaller grain size than most aquarium gravel I've ever used, but I would still by no means consider it a "fine" substrate), with a darker natural colored river stone (slightly larger size than the gravel) mixed in. There are a couple of fake rock decorations in there, and a few lives plants with a couple more fake plants. I was iffy at first about the live plants with the cichlid's reputation for digging and tearing them up, but I figured it was still at least worth a shot. I'm getting some more plants soon, and although this won't be a heavily planted tank, I am going to try to get a good amount of greenery in there. I want to start planting now, so that when I get the fish, the plants will have at least a little time to settle in and grow a bit. Looking at some Anubias Nana (sp?), and probably some Java Fern (low light, so we'll try to start there). I've been pretty torn on the rest of the tank's setup. I want to get a couple of pieces of driftwood, or some natural stone in there, but that all depends on the fish I choose, and whether I'm looking for hard or soft water in the end.

All in all, I'm waiting to decide on the tank's future by first deciding on what fish I want to keep. I'll cater the rest of the tank to their needs, so I'm pretty open to suggestions.

As far as total stocking, I was planning on shooting low. I figured with a smaller tank size, and the aggression levels of some of these guys, that I would probably only be able to keep a few in there. I was hoping that if chosen carefully, that I might be able to see 3 or 4 in there total. This might be over or under, but that's what I was thinking.

Of course, I was hoping to get a few other fish as well, since I won't be able to keep 12 cichlids in there. Probably keeping the 2 danios in there now, and maybe even adding a couple buddies for them (but if they have to go, I have a perfect community tank they would fit right in). Perhaps a cory or two, or small pleco for some cleanup, and then maybe a few hatchets or med-large tetras for some extra action/color. But again, this all depends on what cichlids end up in there.

So far, I'm most heavily leaning towards a pair of Cockatoos. I love the vibrant color of the double or triple red males, and the yellow of the females can rival that of some Africans it seems. Of course, this is all based only on photo's I've seen, since I've never actually seen these guys in real life. If I did that, I'd probably stick with just them. Not necessarily looking to breed them, but because it sounds like their breeding time aggression could be bad if I had another 1 or 2 other cichlids swimming around. Anyways, just thinking out loud on this one.

I was also leaning towards ordering these guys online, probably from liveaquaria.com, unless you guys have other suggestions. So this opens the doors to almost any species. It seems I can't find too many Apistos locally, and with the store's proven track record of labeling the fish, I'd like to actually get what I'm looking for.

I know it's a lot of info, and a very open-ended question, but I'm just looking for suggestions. I’ve got plenty of time, and I’m just trying to come up with a game plan.


So, what are some small, 29g tank-able, somewhat peaceful, and most importantly colorful cichlids? Thanks in advance guys.
 

Bllib

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If you get the cichlids when they are smaller you can keep them in a 29. The growth factor is also going to depend on how much you feed them. Therefore you can slow down their growth if you were to feed them 3x a week. I know that doesn't sound like a lot but I've done it quite a bit with no harm to the fish. You can also look into dwarf cichlids.
 

mostlycichlids

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If you get the cichlids when they are smaller you can keep them in a 29. The growth factor is also going to depend on how much you feed them. Therefore you can slow down their growth if you were to feed them 3x a week. I know that doesn't sound like a lot but I've done it quite a bit with no harm to the fish. You can also look into dwarf cichlids.
How would you like to be fed only three times a week?

To the OP there are quite a few choices for a 29g. Depends if you want Africans of Dwarf SA/CA Cichlids! Three Apistos or rams wouldn't be out of the question.
 

AcydFlames

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Check this out and see if anything catches your eye.
http://www.cichlid-forum.com/articles/cookie_cutter_29g.php
Thanks for the link! I've read through most of that stuff before, and nothing really stood out to me. But to be completely honest, I didn't look up absolutely EVERY fish, so maybe I missed one here or there. That's why I'm asking though.

How would you like to be fed only three times a week?

To the OP there are quite a few choices for a 29g. Depends if you want Africans of Dwarf SA/CA Cichlids! Three Apistos or rams wouldn't be out of the question.
3 Apistos? 1m & 2f I'm guessing? How would they do with tank mates? And the rams, I like their color, and I think they would be a great fish, but it sounds like they're not the hardiest, and as a slight cichlid beginner...

Thanks for the start guys, and don't think I'm not still looking on my own. But it does look like I was at least started down the right path.

Keep 'em coming!
 

theredchaser

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Does it have to be cichlids? If you're looking for personality, there are other fish that I think are better suited with the tank size. You could get a colony of dwarf pufferfish or a couple of dwarf gourami. A pair of blue rams are nice also. Darios are fun to watch too but they're tiny.

Whatever you decide, make sure your cichlids are plant safe. Many will either eat plants or uproot them because they like to move stuff around. Also, most cichlids will get territorial and aggresive when they mature, even the "peaceful" ones.
 

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How would you like to be fed only three times a week?

To the OP there are quite a few choices for a 29g. Depends if you want Africans of Dwarf SA/CA Cichlids! Three Apistos or rams wouldn't be out of the question.
Fish will not find food every day. It doesn't just fall from the heavens like in aquariums :rolleyes:

For this tank it does really depend if you want to go african or SA/CA. With the first I would suggest neolamprologus multifasciatus with possibly a pair of julidochromis. For the latter, you could do a SA community based around rams or apistos. Planted preferably.

I personally believe rams get a bad rap. If you find a reputable source, such as a local breeder, you are set.
 

mostlycichlids

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Fish will not find food every day. It doesn't just fall from the heavens like in aquariums :rolleyes:
True but the two should not be compared and aquarium fish need to be treated differently for many reasons!
 

snoopy65

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If you like rams, try Bolivian Rams. They are much hardier than the Blue Rams and Rams like planted tanks. An angelfish, some bleeding heart tetra (red), or congo tetra (nice coloring), a school of corys (there are green, albino, orange, lots of colors). That would be a pretty nice tank, active too.
 
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