tank holds water (so far - been about 5 min) brought it over to a freinds that had room to fill it and let it sit - sorry no pics (i'm camera stupid) but do a search and you can see what they look like - looking to it further is seams someone resealed it cuz it doesnot have the black tar as sealent - its not to heavy its a 29 gal tank (little taller really) i can move it by myself (i dident think it would happen from looking at it) - so far this is a reall cool tank - i got to try and find a old vintage metal hod and light now - thanks everyone - tim