steelerfan's 30 Gallon Breeder Journal/Build

In fact, Randy in his article indicated that 7.8 to 8.2 is an acceptable rang but as you approach the lower in of that scale it is even more important to maintain alk and Ca at optimal levels. Not an expert on chemistry by any means but what I took from the article is that with lower pH, coral skeletons can actually start to decay from the acide making calcium and alk concentration that much more important to corals and their ability to graow/maintain their skeletons.

Yes there is always ammonia being converted but the amount of ammonia resulting from fedding and coral/fish waste is far less than an entire table shrimp decating in the tank. If you don;t have much alage for the CUC to eat you can just feed the pellets, etc.

pH will definitely vary throughout the light cycle but even more so when photosynthtic life is present. This is why people run refugiums on reverse light cycles to stabalize pH throughout the day.
 
my CUC will ship out monday and i should have by wed or thurs.

do you think by taking shrimp out tonight i should still be good to add CUC wed or thurs?

having nothing in there for those 6 days wouldn't kill much of the bacteria should it?

i am gonna add 2 balls of cheato to tank.

worst case is i get a lot of pods if cheato doesn't work out.



greech said:
In fact, Randy in his article indicated that 7.8 to 8.2 is an acceptable rang but as you approach the lower in of that scale it is even more important to maintain alk and Ca at optimal levels. Not an expert on chemistry by any means but what I took from the article is that with lower pH, coral skeletons can actually start to decay from the acide making calcium and alk concentration that much more important to corals and their ability to graow/maintain their skeletons.

Yes there is always ammonia being converted but the amount of ammonia resulting from fedding and coral/fish waste is far less than an entire table shrimp decating in the tank. If you don;t have much alage for the CUC to eat you can just feed the pellets, etc.

pH will definitely vary throughout the light cycle but even more so when photosynthtic life is present. This is why people run refugiums on reverse light cycles to stabalize pH throughout the day.
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No man, you should be fine. Just acclimate them good.
 
we have life!

snails and cheato came in today.

i ordered the following from john at reefcleaners:

2 balls of cheato with pods
15 dwarf ceriths
10 florida ceriths
7 nassaurius
5 dwarf planaxis

again, a great guy to deal with and highly recomend him to anyone looking for a CUC.

i have some pieces of cheato flying around tank. should that be an issue?

also, i was messing with sand and rock earlier so tank is cloudy, but will still take pic.

these guys started scattering as soon as they hit the sand.

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Congrats on the first additions!! Sounds like they acclimated good. Never read a bad post about reefcleaners.

Your tank is so clean! You may need to feed those guys a bit. The nassarius need some protein to their diet (at least mine do). The will bury themselves and when food hits the water they come out of the ground like zombies :) You may want to put a little pile of pellets in every so often. Be good for your tank too until you get a fish (and fish poop :)).

Chaeto floating is fine but it will probably get pulled to your filter screen. It will not root so you don't need to worry about it taking over.
 
greech said:
Congrats on the first additions!! Sounds like they acclimated good. Never read a bad post about reefcleaners.

Your tank is so clean! You may need to feed those guys a bit. The nassarius need some protein to their diet (at least mine do). The will bury themselves and when food hits the water they come out of the ground like zombies :) You may want to put a little pile of pellets in every so often. Be good for your tank too until you get a fish (and fish poop :)).

Chaeto floating is fine but it will probably get pulled to your filter screen. It will not root so you don't need to worry about it taking over.
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thanks greech,

even the wife was sitting on the floor in front of tank for about 15 minutes lastnight watching :-)

i got more than i ordered of course and i think only 1 snail didn't make it but it says to give up to 3 days.

i dont notice any pods as of yet but will give it time.

i was wondering about how often i should feed tank for snails.

i just did my major maint today where i changed carbon, cleaned filter and put polyfilter in along with my 5 gallon wc.

i have some formula 2 pellets.

you think i should sink 5 or so down on the sand now?

glad about the cheato not rooting. got most of the stuff on WC today.
 
Sure why not. If they are the tiny pellets then I might give a few more. Until you get some bioload in that tank you're going to want to feed the tank every few days. Snails poop too so any extra food and that will help keep the bacteria going. Get a red flashlight (or hold something red over a regular one) and look at the tank at night. Look along the edges of rocks and in the crevices and in the chaeto ball. You should see them crawl and scurry. You may not see a lot in number from one ball of chaeto but as long as you don't have pod hunters in your tank they will take off pretty quick.
 
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greech said:
Sure why not. If they are the tiny pellets then I might give a few more. Until you get some bioload in that tank you're going to want to feed the tank every few days. Snails poop too so any extra food and that will help keep the bacteria going. Get a red flashlight (or hold something red over a regular one) and look at the tank at night. Look along the edges of rocks and in the crevices and in the chaeto ball. You should see them crawl and scurry. You may not see a lot in number from one ball of chaeto but as long as you don't have pod hunters in your tank they will take off pretty quick.
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thanks greech.

i put 3 in lastnight at lights out and they were all over them. gonna put in a few tonight too for them.

i have two balls of cheato in there and can't see any yet but will have plenty of time for them to breed.

i am also having a problem with low alk which is at 7, which would explain the low ph.

what causes low alk?

i am using neo marine salt.
 
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