What fish (other than bettas) don't need a filter

reziztor said:
Although most hardcore breeders/fish keepers would deny it, I suspect its the "Untermensch" ideal.
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is that nieztche? hmmm...

on your comment, liz, about the feeders... aquarium fish are commodities, just like all domesticated animals. if there is a sale involved, the ethics are limited to the vendor and vendee. .... and the end consumer. i don't buy feeder fish for several reasons. one of them is to take my stand as a consumer.

working at a pet store changes your view of the hobby DRASTICALLY. don't agree unless you've punched a clock and not cared after scooping hundreds, live and dead, and not cared one way or the other after seven hours. you do your best, but stop pushing tank requirements so strictly after a while (IME). every once in a while, you have the time and energy (and audience) to propell someone into the true hobby and passion we all write about so often.

liz, my experience, 1/3 know more than you about what they are looking at, 1/3 are on the same general knowledge base, and 1/3 need to be sold a big tank and big filter, or sold something so you can concentrate your energy on the other 2/3.

but aquarium fish are a commodity. its a high turnover hobby. just as well, in some regards.

i got a nice one for ya, remember the 'Betta Vase'? 'the fish will eat the plant roots to survive'.... kicked one over once in a store. just to make someone deal with a suffocating fish.

:not cool: hehe


i believe realists are supermen... realizing reality is the toughest of all.
 
Thanks for the replies even though a little off topic. To answer your questions...I just set-up a one gallon bowl with a small bamboo plant and a red betta. Im using a desk lamp for light and heat and I have a thermometer in there with him. Sand substrate with small river rocks on top. He looks happy, even though he hasn't found the food yet. Ok I get it that the optimum environment would include a filter, but i plan on doing a half water change twice a week. But other than that, there is no small fish or other living thing that can "clean up" the bottom? I appreciate all of your help, just trying to make my betta happy with quaint 1-gallon home I gave him.
 
poorly kept feeders = sickening the fish they are fed to... I've seen bait shops with better tank conditions than the feeder tanks at some stores. These are also the stores I refuse to buy anything living from.......
 
Lol

Using "quaint" as a euphemism for "crummy" ain't getting you any love from the peanut gallery.

Cough up the "quaint" $15 and get a small tank with filter, then throw in some oto cats to keep it clean.

.02 por vous.
 
To help make the 1 gallon setup better consider getting some java fern or moss. It grows easy and requires little help. It will eat some of the toxic buildup in the tank as well. As for friends? Well you could try a couple of tiny ghost shrimp or some pond snails. They create very little waste, though there is times that bettas have been knwo to eat them. Mine never have but I have a 5 gallon tank so that may change things. When I did have a 1 gallon tank I found a really tiny sponge filter with air pump at Walmart that fit really well and certainly helped make the tank conditions better.

If you could up the tank to a 5 gallon with a heater and small internal filter you might consider pygmy cories as tank mates or a couple of otto cats.
 
misopeenut said:
actually if you have enough plants and enough lighting, you can keep about 5 tetra in a gallon tank.
my friend is doing it right now
no light, no filter no co2, nothing.
just remember to not feed so much, and for first few weeks might have to change some water but after that all she does is just add water.
it is possible
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Wow is that ever wildly inaccurate. It is most certainly not possible to do this and provide for long term fish health.
 
on the contrary...

actually, the set up you have is pretty decent for a betta...not crummy. what would be crummy for a betta would be to put one in a big tank that has a filter with a current. i have experience with this and it is more cruel than a bowl with water changes. those big "betta splenden" fins are not natural and make it quite stressful for a betta in a tank with current (they get blown around and can never sit still, something they prefer to do). if you are going to put a betta in a tank, make sure they can go somewhere, besides behind the filter, to take refuge from the current. the live plants would be neat. the bamboo you have now will also take care of some of the nitrate, tho.
 
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