Would buiding and using a DIY co2 generator be dangerous/illegal for a 15 year old to

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rcalzadilla said:
Alcohol is not the devil, neither are women and money.
It's lack of discipline and good convictions that leads to problems.
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tho i may have to dispute the part about women:Angel:
 
Well I went ahead and built the generator.

If anyone asks it is my parents.
 
KarlTh said:
Yeek - the land of the free and you can't even brew beer if you're under 21? It's a strange perspective from European eyes that you can buy an assault rifle but not a can of Tetleys... but we have our blind spots as well, no doubt.

Rocker - alas we have that problem as well. Too much of a "drink to get drunk" culture in the UK, not enough of a "drink to appreciate fine wine and beer" culture.
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Karl I know what you mean. My host family in Spain was amazed that we could fire a gun at such a young age but not purchase/consume alcohol until 21.

Sorry if the is OT. :D
 
thrak76 said:
Can you give us some supporting info? Not that i'm under 21; i'd just like to research this further.
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I got busted for underage manufacturing of alcohol in college making natural root beer. You use yeast to carbonate in the last step and it produces about .1% alcohol.

Any chemical or biological process that makes alcohol in any quantity even as a byproduct is still making alcohol. The federal law on this is clear on how old you have to be to manufacture alcohol without a commercial license.

You can check with the BATF.

But as I said, if you can get your parents to claim it, there is no prosecutable case.

As far as being dangerous, methanol is only produced when you ferment cell walls (cellulose).
In a beer and wine setup, this is such a small amount that it is irrelevant.
It only becomes relevant if you distill the alcohol and concentrate the levels, but even then, methanol comes out 20 deg f lower than ethanol and can be tossed so it is not in the whiskey.
 
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I don't like guns... especially in the hands of minors... but I understand why they are legal in the US.

I don't see why responsible consumption of alcohol by teenagers would be a problem.



However- letting kids get drunk and play with firearms is a recipe for disaster! ;) I think as long as you have one or the other illegal we're fairly safe... LOL
 
The thought did cross my mind Wycco. ;) Don't know the exact situation in the US, but in the UK it is not illegal to give a child over the age of 5 alcohol, although any significant amount could constitute the offence of administering a noxious substance to a minor. Only over 18s can buy alcohol, but young people between 16 and 18 can consume beer, wine or cider on a licenced premises if it's bought by someone over 18 and consumed with a meal. It's amazing how many people don't know this clause.

We used to have laws about beermaking at home decades ago, but that wasn't age related and was to protect the brewing industry. That was long ago lifted and now there are no restrictions on fermentation, although there are strongly enforced laws banning unlicenced distillation, or the sale of any alcohol without a licence.

Which all goes to show bugger all, I think. What seems to determine the likelihood and nature of alcohol misuse is not the age at which people start to drink, but the models of drinking they see in the adults around them and their peer group.
 
Everybody's old enough for a beer, ain't that right Mule?
 
I think that the age limit is there for a reason. Atleast by the age of 21 (if this is rong, please forgive me - I'm not American Lol) they can make up their own mind instead of being fueled by peer pressure. Also giving alchohol to younger teens and children could be dangerous, as they don't know to the full extent how dangerous this substance can be, and are more likely to be fueled by peers. Also, I don't think it would be good for their health. Getting drunk is a possible circumstance and could and has been lethal in younger teens / children.

I'm sorry for turning the thrad away from the question:)Sorry:) I have no idea if it would be legal or illegal to make your own co2 system though.
 
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