My beta's fins are tangled..?

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slugzkea

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i'll have to borrow my gfs camera it has better resolution.

The moor was raised in a tank at 82F, so i mean...i guess this moor is okay. I did read before hand signs of aggrevation in case the moor gets uncomfortable and aggressive..once that happens, i'll remove him but right now he seems fine and dandy.

As for the bubble nests, he use to make big ones in his old tank but the gourami and mollies ganged up and kept destroying it. He loves making it in the bowl though, and he hasn't bothered with the new tank.

Thank you all for the information, i'll keep you guys updated as much as I can...right now mr blue is recovering quite quickly, his fins are starting to spread already!
 

ayra321

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glad to hear mr blue is feeling much better!
you should still do something about your stocking,.
hey maybe you could get mr. blue his own live plants and make him his own little betta planted paradise!
 

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Once I see problems with the stocking, i'll consider other options. the only problem right now is Alpha (male gourami) will not allow princess (female red betta) to roam the front of the tank...she's only allowed in the rear, or at the bottom.

As for mr blue, I have updated pics using my gf's camera:


You can see the clumping here, especially the bottom. this was day 1 though, he looks much better on day 2.


Here's the bump on his head that I Was talking about earlier.


as for live plants and his little paradise, i'm working on it...but if he doesn't regain his level of contentment he once had with his old tank, i'm going to put him back there, once I get the bigger tank, and transfer most of the community to the big tank, and let mr blue have the 15.6 gallons to himself, along with the pleco and the snails. The amount of dancing he did in that tank was phenomenal.
 

ayra321

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has he been having stringy poop lately?any other symptoms?

for the stocking ,you can keep it as long as you get a 4-5 foot long tank.if you dont want a huge tank at the moment i suggest finding a new home for those fish,for the good of the fish.
 

LeahK

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Called the pet store, they said the bala shark will get as big according to the tank. If he gets too big, i'll just sell him..or i'll just go all out and get a fuggen huge *** tank!
This is a sad myth that many uninformed people believe--including many people who sell fish.

Fish do not adapt their growth rates to accommodate being in a small tank. Rather, they become deformed and stunted.

For example: "It simply is not true that fish will only grow to fit their tank. This is an 'old wives' tale' and one of the most common, and sometimes most frustrating, myths about fish keeping today. This misinformation is perpetuated by the fact that most fish will die before they visibly outgrow the tank they are housed in. This early death is unnecessary and can be easily avoided by providing enough space for the fish to reach full size, along with proper care for the fish and their fish tank." -- http://www.firsttankguide.net/size.php

You can read about this issue at many other websites:

"Fish only grow to the size of their tank: This is possibly the most common myth I hear, and I know many stores still tout this as truth. however, it is untrue." -- http://www.firsttankguide.net/myths.php


"[FONT=Arial,Verdana,Sans-serif]Realize that the myth 'the fish will grow to the size of the tank' is just that, a myth. A fish’s internal organs will continue to grow long after its body becomes stunted by the release of growth inhibiting hormones. This results in a painful, slow death for the fish." -- http://www.aquariumpros.com/articles/research.shtml[/FONT]

"I know there are some people who say that the fish only grows to the size of the tank but this is simply not true." -- http://www.ehow.com/how_5862381_choose-right-fish-fish-tank.html

"Myth 1 Goldfish only grow to the size of the tank. This is a common myth, but it is also entirely wrong. Saying a gold fish will only grow to the size of a tank is like stuffing a kitten into a jam jar and saying that it will only grow to the size of the jar, or binding a young girl's feet and saying they will only grow to the size of the binding. It may be true in one respect, but in reality, what you're doing is unnaturally stunting the fish's growth and killing it early."-- http://hubpages.com/hub/My-Goldfish-Keep-Dying-A-Guide-To-Keeping-Goldfish-Without-Killing-Them

http://www.badmanstropicalfish.com/forum/index.php?topic=9743.0


For a picture of a deformed fish:

http://www.aquaria.info/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=363&theme=Printer


And, here's some info on bala sharks:
"It is a freshwater species, with a maximum size of 14-16", and it is commonly kept in larger aquariums.... It is frequently sold as a small juvenile in pet shops and many buyers do not realise exactly how large this fish can grow and how large the aquarium must be." -- http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/sharkfish/balashark.php

"Very common in the hobby today the bala shark should be researched before purchased. They grow very large and fast and prefer to be kept in groups." -- http://badmanstropicalfish.com/profiles/profile21.html


And, goldfish:
"This should be a minimum 30* gallon for the first fish and 20 gallon for every goldfish thereafter. That's right, a 50 gallon tank (180 liters) is only enough for two goldfish. At this point you might decide to keep a different sort of fish, and I would say that this is quite a good idea. Goldfish, in spite of their popularity, are one of the more demanding types of fish to keep. They can grow up to 18 inches, (almost 50cm), so stuffing one into a tiny bowl and thinking things will be okay is not an option." -- http://hubpages.com/hub/My-Goldfish-Keep-Dying-A-Guide-To-Keeping-Goldfish-Without-Killing-Them
 
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slugzkea

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hrm...none of my fish look deformed, that's nasty!

as for betta poop, what is normal poop suppose to look like, and bad poop? his poop looks like something that would come out of a cocking gun that swirls
 

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I still do not understand the bag...he already has his own tank..are you quarantining him from the invisible fish inside the tank? Anyways, his fins are only messed up due to the nibbling on the fins, he should be back to normal soon
 

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hrm...none of my fish look deformed, that's nasty!

as for betta poop, what is normal poop suppose to look like, and bad poop? his poop looks like something that would come out of a cocking gun that swirls
If you are saying the poop looks white and stringy then there is a very good chance he has internal parasites.
 
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