Mafia 46: In the Dark

[OgreMkV]

Mael, yeah, that's pretty much my thinking. Except, for LadyG, if she was the turn night 1, then something odd happened (maybe she just decided to really start playing). I almost prefer as night 2 turn (not that it matters) based on this stuff this morning.

I really want to know what happened to John, he's either been awfully quiet or he's dead because he was on a team and was picked by the other team. I know he said he was travelling and wouldn't be on a lot, but I REALLY WANT TO HEAR FROM JOHN NOW!!!!!

Best case, he was mafia and recruited by the good guys, in which case we're down to 3 innocent team and 2 on the mafia team. Actually, it doesn't matter, if he was innocent and recruited by the mafia, then the score is still the same.

Innocents are ahead.

Until I hear from him, I'm going to assume John is dead and the score is as above.

Looking back at nightfalls, we have Lucky with a lone vote both nights, along with John. The votes were so spread out night one, it is hard to get anything from it..but I would bet those on Guns were innocent (at least at the time). With the votes that spread out the Mafia had no pressure at all so I am sure they voted on ones with no risk of being lynched.

John really has done nothing to make me to uneasy about him, but of course he hasn't said much either ( I know I haven't either) at this time I really haven't seen him as a threat.

Lucky on the other hand, night one votes DD (first with no reason) even AFTER everyone was all over Mael for doing the same thing. Night two, he votes me with the reason "to make ppl talk". Later he posts how he didn't want a train on me because of his vote, because ppl were starting to talk about me, leaving his vote though. Then at nightfall, after some pressure to switch because it was a wasted vote...he switches his vote which would of broke the tie and sealed the lynch on Ogre, although his vote switch was to late.

Somthing is definately not sitting well with me about Lucky he has unsettled me throughout the game and I have a feeling he was a team mate of Dawgs.

Something is not quite right about LadyG either. She makes a good case for lucky, but why the sudden jump into deep investigation mode?

I'm not quite as concerned about a night one singleton vote as LadyG is. I'm also not quite concerned about lucky.

LUCKY: I do want to hear why you tried to switch to me. You said "No time, will explain later" please go ahead an explain. I want to know.

I may as well get this out of the way..I vote to lynch Lucky.

Rich is another that has my attention, looking back at posts he seemed to attempt to "protect" Dawg.

Noodles, sorry I'm still not feeling well about her either.

Good point, since it's been brought up already.

WOW, what a night!! Good work on those suspicious of Dawg!! I am still not sure of CJ's death... sucks that we lost another innocent though....

For now, I think I need an overhaul in my thinking... I am really stumped this game... I do feel like Lucky has made a major change from the beginning of the game up to even this point. Sure, school does get in the way but what about at night. There has been no fury of posts like there were before selection day.

I am still curious for the question I asked of c-note.... of which I still haven't seen the answer for...

I still don't see the lucky deal. I may be wrong, but I get nothing from lucky.

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My list
mael - almost surely innocent
noods - almost surely innocent
me - almost surely innocent
John - if alive, then probably innocent, if dead, then it don't matter
C-note - very unsure of, but leaning innocent
lucky - leaning mafia
LadyG - very probably mafia
Rich - almost surely mafia
DD - ?? good turn choice for night 2, quiet, no one has commented on her much, etc. She does add to the 'lucky hysteria' but very subtly.

I would be perfectly happy voting rich or LadyG.

 

[[AC] C-note]

I play by feel. I don't note when what was said I just read and bring what I get out of it together in my head. Nothing really changed. I said I had wonders about you because you were active and that is what I meant. You were around a lot so your name popped up lot.

I was thinking of changing my vote late last evening, probably would have been Ogre so I am glad I did not. Both Ogre and dawg were on my list. I did not since I was sure of noodles so i decided to stay on her.

Here's the thing, Rich...you didn't say that you were wondering about me. You leaned me mafia, and pretty quickly once I voted for Dawg. Even after giving me a pretty strong 'innocent' endorsement earlier in the day. Let's look some more:




Here you say that I seem innocent.

C-note seems innocent to me right now, we shall see.

A little bit later you say that I seem innocent, apparently due to my activity in the game. Also, while I haven't included your entire post here, if you click on the arrow to expand the post, you'll notice that Dawg doesn't seem to be on your list at this time. This is interesting, as I believe that you're now claiming that Dawg was on your list all along.

C-note has been on everyone. Seems to be doing what an innocent towns person would do, try to get people to speak to see if he can pry lose that important fact that will help us come to a good decision. I would like to know what his list is currently.

Now after I've voted for Dawg and you previously questioned the logic for my vote (posts not shown), I'm leaning scum. Apparently because of the same activity level that had you thinking me innocent earlier. Hmmm.

Also note that although you say something about Dawg, it sure doesn't look like you're naming him as a suspect... only accusing him of having strong opinions, but still you're not sure.

I suspect or feel mafia leanings for ogre and c-note but that just may be they are the most active.

Lucky and dawg have been strong in their opinions. Again is this tactics or personalities.

I must think some more on this.

After I question the fact that you now have me leaning mafia, you blame it on the fact that others have been talking about me, and I've been active. I've already mentioned that Dawg was the only one talking about me much. So what about my activity level (that you liked before) now makes you find me scummy?

I was observing that you and Ogre were suspects or talked about a lot because you were both active and questioning.

Now here you seem to mention that my activity level STILL has me innocent in your eyes, also that Dawg is now your #2 suspect. A couple of questions here: 1) How can I STILL be innocent, as you named me as mafia on your last list, and 2) If Dawg was your #2 suspect behind noodles, why are you now saying that if you had switched votes last night it would have been onto Ogre (see your first post quoted above)?

Interesting,

so far we have Dawg and C-note and ogre and Noodles bashing each other.

Ogre is high on most peoples list and if he and noodles were a team noodles would need to leave him soon or he is going to go down. That and the fact that he always plays hard lightens any suspicions I have of him.

C-note has been on everyone for most of the game and seems solidly on dawg now. I still think he is being straight forward looking for a best vote.

I tend to think dawg is defending himself and not looking else where to help the team.

Noodles still worries me but she has not said much today to strengthen or lessens my ideas about her. I wonder if she will pull the vote off of Ogre?

I look forward to hearing more from everyone else.

Right now I would say Noodles, then dawg.

Here's a misc. post where you seem to be naming Dawg as a suspect, more strongly, but at the same time moving him down your list below Ogre.

I don't see what in my post caused such a reaction but that was the case.

I think dawg is acting suspiciously and I said so. I will write irt again for you mael. He is all over C-note and defending himself. He has done little for the rest of the town.

I believe he was in my 3. there are 3 mafia right now and I can have a list of three if I want too.

I was going to vote noodles but since Ogre reacted so badly I have only one choice at this point or not.

I vote to Lynch Noodles.

Rich, note that the fact you leaned me mafia isn't the issue. The inconsistency is. Apparently in your eyes I went:

innocent -> innocent -> mafia -> innocent

It was pretty quickly, and all because of my activity level. Kinda weird, isn't it?

 

[rich311k]

C-note

You never were on the mafia list for me. I can't get you to understand my logic but I will try this one more time.

You were around and talked about so you were of interest. That is it.

I still think Noodles is a mafia the voting last night did little to change that. I would put money on Lady G and DD being recruited by one side or the other, both good veteran players.

 

[[AC] C-note]

DD, what question have you asked that I haven't answered?

I am still curious for the question I asked of c-note.... of which I still haven't seen the answer for...

I believe that this is the entire exchange between us, and I see no questions:

.... I have major suspicions on Ogre but bigger suspicions on C-note... The problem I have with c-note is the hard drive he is taking at dawg... for all I know, Dawg could be mafia, but the more cnote pushes on the one instance and then the process of digging for information has me most concerned.

If I were to vote today, my vote would be on c-note... second would be on Ogre... but I think I will hold onto my vote until I am more sure...

DD, you incorrectly lynched Gunslinger yesterday for going hard at maelstrom, and now I'm suspicious for going hard at Dawg? You'd think with your logic being so faulty with Gunslinger that you'd think twice about using a second time so quickly.

actually, I voted Guns for being a bully.... interesting trying to twist it though...

Yeah..lots of twisting. Bully/aggressive, big difference there. That's quite a list of scumtells you seem to be working from.

I call it twisting because never did I say I was voting for Guns because of how hard he was going at Mael. I said because he was a bully as compared to Mael who I also found suspicious.

For the lack of c-note to straighten out my last post to him and is a direct find of him or her twisting my posts, I am placing my vote on him tonight...

I vote to lynch C-note

So, again. There's no outstanding question. If you're referring to the fact that you said 'bully' vs. 'aggressive', I believe that I addressed it in the 3rd to the last post quoted here, where I sarcastically pointed out that I didn't see much of a difference between 'bully' vs. 'aggressive'. Satisfied?

 

[[AC] C-note]

C-note

You never were on the mafia list for me. I can't get you to understand my logic but I will try this one more time.

You were around and talked about so you were of interest. That is it.

I still think Noodles is a mafia the voting last night did little to change that. I would put money on Lady G and DD being recruited by one side or the other, both good veteran players.

But Rich, what logic don't I understand? Saying 'I suspect or feel mafia leanings for ogre and c-note...' doesn't really leave itself open for interpretation.

Wow we have votes and accusations flying everywhere. Some pretty thin logic but we have not all that much to go on either.

I suspect or feel mafia leanings for ogre and c-note but that just may be they are the most active.

Ogre and Noodles are on each other but they have been since almost post one. Maybe this is ruse to make us not pay that much attention to them.

Lucky and dawg have been strong in their opinions. Again is this tactics or personalities.

I must think some more on this.

 

[OgreMkV]

Unless something major breaks, I will be voting for Rich.

DD, what is your opinion of myself and rich... in the game please?

 

[Opicana]

Rich- I can't really explain why, but I am getting a Mafia-vibe from Rich. He seems to be playing middle of the road, cautious...he's posting enough and saying enough not to attract attention, but he doesn't seem to be going out on any limbs. Seems like he is blending well. However, I have no actual evidence of this. Just a feeling.

JL- For reasons I have already explained in a previous post, I am uncomfortable with his sarcastic "you caught me" post. He seemed to be trying to play it cool. He's definitely one of my top suspects.

Top Suspects (in order): Dawg, JL, Rich, Mael

So...Dawg was my top suspect, and is now gone...woohoo!

In my book, anyone who voted for Dawg is probably innocent. It would have been easy to switch their vote away from Dawg to take the pressure off. So...Mael, Ogre and C-Note are my leading innocents.

That leaves JL and Rich as my top suspects from before.

JL- I am still very suspicious of...and where did he go?

Rich- My leading Mafia....evidence keeps mounting. I agree with Mael and C-Notes comments on Rich, and adds on to my facts from before. Unless someone changes, he will be my vote.

Noodles- Where is she? It's odd we haven't heard a post from her since nightfall. Was she a victim of last night?

MC- I still don't have thoughts on one way or another. They are not on my stop suspect list...but they are still on it.

LG- Has been boosted to the top of my list, after Rich. I agree with Mael's logic of them not being able to switch to save Dawg. I think her and Rich are a team.

Lucky- Meh...he's as much of a suspect as MC...not really in my top. I think the Rich & LG thing makes much more sense.

DD- I have my eye on because if she's not on a team, I can see the Mafia recruiting her quickly because of her unreadable-ness.

Did I get everyone?

Top Suspects: Rich, LadyG, JL

 

[OgreMkV]

Crap... noods and John? Wouldn't that have been hillarious if the two teams each picked someone from the other team?

Noods, where are you?

 

[Opicana]

Crap... noods and John? Wouldn't that have been hillarious if the two teams each picked someone from the other team?

Noods, where are you?

Hehe...that would be amusing...and is a possibility. Hmm...

 

[OgreMkV]

Hehe...that would be amusing...and is a possibility. Hmm...

Actually, it wouldn't be nearly as funny. It would mean we were all totally wrong about John (someone didn't trust him LadyG?).