"GloFish" Where do you stand?

Would you buy "Glofish"?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 76 37.1%
  • No.

    Votes: 129 62.9%

  • Total voters
    205
Very good points. I am not exactly pro selective breeding. If anything, I'm against it. It's just my opinion that injecting an egg with something you take from a jellyfish or whatever it was and allowing animals with specific qualities to breed are a little different and the first being a little more unethical.

But who is to say where the line for ethics should be drawn? It's all just my personal view on it. You both have very good arguments, and I agree to an extent.
 
Genetic Engineering is a touchy issue. It allows us to manufacture drugs (such as insulin for diabetics) in a cost effective manner. It allows us to create produce that stays fresher longer or is resistant to pests, reducing pesticides and their harmful derivatives. Basically, we are all just huge libraries of genes. Sex is the transfer of genes from one gene line to another. Genetic engineering is the same thing, allowing us to take sexually-incompatible organisms and exchange their genes.

I strongly believe in GE and GMO, so long as ethical constraints are observed. I believe it should only be done with a purpose, and not to the detrement of the organism and ecosystem at large.

I think inbreeding is far more harmful to organisms, and is MUCH more common. It makes fish prone to genetic disease that would otherwise be a minimal risk in a population. I'd rather see healthy fluorescent danios than have sick inbred or malnourished fish in a pet shop.

Look at Florida- they have more than 20 exotic species of cichlids and anabantidae that only live there because somebody carelessly introduced a viable organism into an ecosystem in which it can continually live. That's just as much "playing around with nature" as crossing two sexually-incompatible gene lines. Either way you look at it, keeping and breeding fish is playing with nature- we have a responsibility to our native species and exotic species alike to try and preserve both with vigilance and a watchful eye.
 
I didn't have mean to create such a hubub...wow. Sorry about this...I reliquish the topic to it's original purpose.
 
cgrabe said:
I really don't have any problem with glofish. They're still Zebra Danios; they just happen to glow now. It doesn't give them any real advantage over their wild strains. Releasing a glofish into the wild is no more dangerous than releasing a plain ol' vanilla Zebra Danio into the wild (of course neither should happen).

As far as interfering with nature, think about a fancy goldfish for a minute. We've manipulated them to the point that I'm surprised they can function well enough to live past 'childhood'. Using gene-modification is just one more method we can use to screw with nature.

I quoted this because it very much sums up my opinion. I voted no because i wouldnt buy them, they arent that cool, and i like natural looking fish, but i dont condemn people for owning them, way i see it the things are there, they might as well ghet a good home.

BUT opposing GE or selective breeding is rediculous. Every eat corn? or wheat? corn, all of it is genetically engenieered, if you saw the original "corn" before the indigionous americans got to it you wouldnt recognize the stuff, same with wheat (at a later stage). domesticated chickens can't be left in the rain because they'd drown (not smart enough to look down). all domesticated dogs are the result of selective breeding. the list goes on.

ryan
 
xiliquiern said:
I didn't have mean to create such a hubub...wow. Sorry about this...I reliquish the topic to it's original purpose.

This is a forum. It is all about the hubbub. If there weren’t occasional hubbub, nobody would visit. :p

… Seriously though, everyone has maintained a decent attitude – at least the thread hasn’t needed to be closed! :rolleyes:
 
call me off topic, but I thought I'd share: this does loop back on topic.

The Great Potato Famine in Ireland was caused by genetically similar potatoes which all fell victim to a single opportunistic parasite. Commercial pesticide usage has caused untold damage to waterways, reservoirs, and the like, as well as created pesticide-resistant pathogens. There's thousands of acres of the world that are uninhabitable due to toxic levels of chemicals which will not degrade for thousands of years.

Food that stays fresher longer means cheaper, more plentiful produce- without the need for dangerous pesticides and insecticides. It also means we can avert catastrophic famines due to parasitism. Bacteria has been engineered to actually metabolize toxic wastes and clean up dump sites which would otherwise remain uninhabitable for untold thousands of years. Genetically modified bacteria are how most medical research is executed. Genetic modification can create plants which grow fruits laden with edible vaccines and medicines for poorer countries. Genetic Modification is not scary, doesn't create "mutants" (in the popular sense), and is a far cry from sci-fi writers' imaginations. It's a safe avenue of science that's overly feared, just like nuclear power.

The fluorescent danios weren't created for commercial sale, they simply ended up that way. Lots of scientific discoveries happen that way. Antabuse (an alcohol-sensative emetic that's used in treating chronic alcoholics) was discovered when petroleum factory workers became sick when drinking after work. GloFish aren't an abominable frankenstein experiment like the "painted fish." Somebody's just trying to turn a buck off some biologists' discovery (which he probably got next to nothing for).

I wouldn't buy em, but that's just because I abhor the distributor. They are capable of reproducing and surviving, but as to whether glowing danios would be able to compete in the wild... I'd very much doubt it. Hopefully we'll never find out.
 
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aquariumfishguy said:
… Seriously though, everyone has maintained a decent attitude – at least the thread hasn’t needed to be closed! :rolleyes:

I agree, THank you everybody for helping out with this one... In case you didn't read the whole thing and catch my little blurb in there, I revived this thread so I could get some info for my final paper at school. Again, If you don't want yourself to be quoted or included in my paper, please PM me so I know!!!!

Thank you everybody!!!!
 
You can quote forum posts in a formal paper? I wish I knew that in my paper-writing days :p
 
yep, my teacher said that it's a viable source
 
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