Mafia #23 Revenge

I was alluding to the comments that Blue watches PMs...and the fact that I'm getting them.

And I'm not saying who was the previous detective, as I am unaware of that information. I expected to find out tonight with the UD, but it doesn't look like that's likely now.
 
so, rb is sending you pms with this info?..
 
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DD, and others I snipped the quote not because I suspect her, but I'm not following the quotes given. DD did you mean to post all of these because it looks like some didn't have replies or questions from you and I'm a bit confused trying to follow some of what you're saying.

DD, you have valuable information when you're innocent and I dont want me or anyone else to miss it.

Looks like your minds are set. I just hope they don't hit JM tonight...at least some good will come of this.

Either:

1. You're an innocent townie and enjoying BEEPing withour minds
2. You're the detective and you've now given mafia two innocents to hit
3. You're mafia and protecting a team member.

Any way I look at it I will not change my vote on you because I think any of the above is reason to vote you out.

seems some quotes popped into my post....

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I continue to hear more about secrets being held in people coming to their decisions and frankly, am finding it extremely Mafia-ish for folks to keep saying "I have this secret" or "I noticed this and will say what I suspected later".... either you are bluffing or you are holding things from us. If you are trying to help us, why keep things to yourself. And for the excuse already used in this game, the excuse that "so I can use it for other game", I think by Clownie, is a load of crap.... sorry clownie... if you can use it, we could. Bottom line is, you are withholding information that could be beneficial to finding the mafia.

DD, not sure if you saw my answer regarding this type of thing yesterday or not but at one time I thought JM might have gave a hint that she was the detective when she posted the following. She has confirmed however that she sent to clue and I have no problem showing why I thought it because of that. I'd hope you would understand why I would not have made it obvious if she had been hinting at it. The thread where I explained this was 1255

It's only anti-townie cause you're a paranoid freak. Stop smoking. :headshake2:

Um, if anyone is smoking crack or weed right now ...it sure isn't the name bkw that comes to mind.

Why do you have to survive for us to know this, why include Z?? Are you trying to say you and Z are part of a new mafia group...is that the supposed reason for you loosing your Detective role???:headshake2:


Beth this is EXACTLY what I have been thinking this entire time I am trying to get through these posts. I was thinking how suspicions were growing on Grins, then the whole Mal thing started (granted she caused much of it), then the same today. The only other thing that keeps going through my mind is Jmax is right in the middle of it both times too, one of the two OR both have to be mafia IMO.

Well this is going to defend JM as well but fair is fair...Mal's words were her own last night. I didn't put them into her mouth and neither did JM. It is impossible for innocents other than the Doc/Det to communicate and we now know who the doctor was. So that is out since we now know Mal was just a confused innocent. I'll give her a little slack for that since we are all confused. But LC? I'm not giving him the same kind of slack. And if you're going to insist the scenerios are the same then once again please explain how I could be responsible for what he types? Shoot, last I checked the boy had gone off his rocker and went from voting for Blue to Me. By the time I hit send he'll probably have voted for Joander.

Well since you're all going to take my words out of context and put meaning in them that isn't there, here's something more for you paranoid freaks:
I retract my vote for Blue and vote to lynch Grins

Guess what, this makes me want you out even more. And it isn't because of the vote on me but how obviously you're playing mind games with us all. Put down your crack pipe and review for a moment LC:

1. first you're the detective
2. then you were the first dective but Bob replaced you and you can now reveal who your first investigation was without putting the detective role in jeopardy
3. then you were only saying the 2nd to confuse us because you are still the detective and you didn't want to put the role in jeopardy for the town
4. then you weren't the first detective but rather the second one
5. and then you say the first detective will probably UD tonight...um lets see so no surprise who you are inferring will be the no show tonight so you've also outed them?

not only is that whole flip flopping thing ridiculous for anyone to believe in my mind but then there is this:

1. you see that people start thinking that whomever you don't mention in your "secret knowledge as detective" is thought to be your boss (my name was sure tossed around and I'm still shaking my head over it)
2. so then you decide to have more fun messing with everyone's head to make them start to shift off of me and go to JM or shoot anyone.

What is next LC? Are you going to suggest that Mal is the don?

Z, I looked back and it was game 14...he WAS in it. I stated that in one of my posts to Mad. I just didn't remember him ever playing in a game with me before, and before I took it any farther with that thought I had to go back and look...it was a Old/New school mafia game.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Alright, based on that post, I'm assuming that you're claiming to be the former detective...

You're assuming too much based on his last post. I know you're busy but if you catch up on his posts you'll see he has thrown one claim after another. And frankly Mad you're better than that as an innocent.

Sorry I have to go with my first choice: I promise I won't change again.
I retract my vote on LC
I vote to Lynch Grins
if she goes and is innocent I will accept full ownership

If you sincerely think I look more mafia than LC does right now, go right ahead.

unfortunately, the inconsistencies do make it difficult to sort through.



Also, to get it out there I vote to lynch Grins

Could change. I may talk myself into voting for Ice instead...

At this point, my top pics for mafia would be:

Ice
Grins
Clown

maybe DD? for the 2nd day in a row, she's kind of swooped in and voted for the candidate of the moment

I've already given reasons for Ice and Grins, Clown will follow in a later post.

Do the town a favor and show us who the other 3 mafia might be. There are six right now with 2 teams of 3. Surely more than 3 people look suspicious to you, especially if you're willing to not include LC.

with this tied at 6-6, and three left to vote, i am willing to move my vote, if someone else votes one of them, ..To keep it tied, either or, whom ever the non voters vote for.

lol, you're so generous Julz.

There's going to be an innocent UD tonight, that, as well, I can pretty much guarantee.

What? How on earth could you guarantee this sort of thing?

It's about time for Grins to play the "you're not the Detective, I'm the Detective" card isn't it?

Bueller?

Not going to happen.

:confused:

Just because I enjoy a full inbox......

I would like to make it perfectly clear, to all players, I have not posted a single clue to anybodies identity or role in this game. None, Nada, Zero, Zilch.

I made some posts I thought were funny. That's it. Sorry if you were expecing somethng secret, but if you think you have found something, it has been fabricated by the poster.

:)

UGH, can we block Bob from posting in the thread?

Well there might not be a UD tonight afterall...I'll keep ya'll posted.

Let me guess LC, you know this because you're now Bala and the player emailed you.
 
OMG! What a crazy day... someone should have warned me and I would've called in sick to avoid having that much to read before night fell. A couple thoughts and I need to go back and study the posts again.

First, I have no idea what LC is thnking, but I wouldn't put anything past him. I find it dubious that he's gone on and on about wanting to be a wildcard in future games and then comes out as the supposed replacement detective. He's leapt way up the list to me because I'm not necessarily buying it. I can easily believe that if mafia he's acting totally independently though because of his lack of IM ability. But, I still think it's a deflection move from Grins or JM and am keeping my vote on Grins. JM has seemed somewhat more innocent to me, but there are degrees of evil (as pointed out in her sig). I don't think she's on the serial killer level anymore, but maybe closer to a street walker. My top three have to be Grins, LC, and then JM. Other than that have me slightly concerned are Clown and Emo (ESPECIALLY if he comes in with a late vote).
 
Holy Crap... I think we just got railroaded. Look at what happens near the eleventh hour here.

well, i am frustrated, and upset, i don't know what else to do, ..i tried pointing things out, WTF is the point?> when i did that, i got told, no one asked for my opinion, so dam, screw it, I Vote to lynch ICE

Why, no one is seriously on him yet... why waste the vote?

Well since you're all going to take my words out of context and put meaning in them that isn't there, here's something more for you paranoid freaks:
I retract my vote for Blue and vote to lynch Grins

Why?

Ok, guys/gals...I am going to get my vote in, I have some stuff I need to get done and I have been on here trying to get caught up for what 2 hours now!! Anyway..I vote to lynch Grins

Sorry all this "deflection" stuff has to be toward her or Jmax, I know how out there Jmax has been and Lchap well, I think he has been sniffing to much of something. Not sure what to think of him besides he is just nuts this game. We can deal with all that another time, so many have jumped on him and Jmax though I just can't put my vote there, I just feel most strong about Grins at this time.

Everything is subject to change, and I will be back before long to look through and post more thoughts.

Wait a minute... what's going on here?

Sorry I have to go with my first choice: I promise I won't change again.
I retract my vote on LC
I vote to Lynch Grins
if she goes and is innocent I will accept full ownership

What the heck?

unfortunately, the inconsistencies do make it difficult to sort through.



Also, to get it out there I vote to lynch Grins

Could change. I may talk myself into voting for Ice instead...

At this point, my top pics for mafia would be:

Ice
Grins
Clown

maybe DD? for the 2nd day in a row, she's kind of swooped in and voted for the candidate of the moment

I've already given reasons for Ice and Grins, Clown will follow in a later post.

Wow?!?!?

Day Two Ends: 7PM CST Thursday 1/10
(18 Players) No Vote: (3) emo, cooldude, Mad
4-Grins: Blueiz(992)Ogre(1016) HN(1161) Cory(1188) King(1265) Beth(1470) LChap(1505) LadyG(1517)
7-LChap: clown(1002) clown(1307) ZSandmann(1335) King(1347) Blue(1361) Grins(1429) DD(1480) Beth(1484) bkw(1495)
0-elmo: Zsandmann(1122)clown(1169)Lchap(1231)
3-JM: Ice(1154) clown(1285) Ogre(1323) clown(1324)
0-Blue: Lchap(1281)
1-Ice: JM(1503)


All of a sudden, public enemy number one has three followers and with only a little push (by some poor innocent dupe), we could lose the LChap race.


This is the only thing that leads me to believe that Grins may be innocent. This looks SO MUCH like a railroad. To save Lchap or JMax?

Why are LadyG, beth, and Mad following LChap?!??!

What the heck is going on here?


:confused:

Just because I enjoy a full inbox......

I would like to make it perfectly clear, to all players, I have not posted a single clue to anybodies identity or role in this game. None, Nada, Zero, Zilch.

I made some posts I thought were funny. That's it. Sorry if you were expecing somethng secret, but if you think you have found something, it has been fabricated by the poster.

:)

Like we're supposed to believe that!


OK, there are two things happening here (maybe more). Here's what I think is most likely, LChap is the detective for one team and has found an enemy mafia member that (fortunately) is already suspected by several people. Alternately, he or his Don gets their investigation and finds evil Grins.

So when Grins goes down (if she goes down), then LChap is a hero for leading us to her demise. That makes him pretty bullet proof. Alternately, we knock him out and discover that he's something, and pretty much whatever happens, that gives the mafia one more day on us.

I hate the dual mafia teams. Just because someone leads us to mafia, that doesn't mean that they are innocent.

OK, I've got to make a quick decision here. I think I'm going to support the LChap vote. This is (I think) the best way to get information. It looks like a run between him and Grins at this point. With the sudden surge (led by Lchap) against Grins, I think this really points him to being mafia (and his little followers).

My revised mafia list
Mad, LadyG, beth, Grins, LChap and (Ice? JMax?)
 
JM, I think I have it all figured out. LC whacked Bob and is now Bala. :lipssealedsmilie:

:lipssealedsmilie::lol: in that case, we can just give up, and go have a beer!:cheers:
 
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