Mafia #67 - 50/50 -- The Play

[johnlarson66]

The FF vote sure seems tempting. Asking to be investigated and then hinting at a communicating role not only is contradictory but scummy. I mean, look at post #59...he flat out answers Lab that he is trying to RC as a CI. Really, FF? That nervous about getting a scum role again? I highly doubt either team is going to want to investigate him now with all the attention, not to mention he's an early favorite for the lynch.

I vote to lynch FF

"sure seems tempting" went to a vote in the same post. I would expect FF to play a little more conservative if he had a scum role. You really think his posts make him look nervous?

 

[TankHobbyist]

so from what i gather from the first few posts the wholwe point is to find out who the bad guy is right??

 

[IceH2O]

JL, why are you so against trying to make sense of FF again? Did you not see what happened last time? We ignored him early and he flew under the radar for the entire game. I'm not saying that is a reason just to suspect him now but it's certainly a reason to read trough his posts.

The people who are hesitant to lynch FF (namely Kash, Ice, JB, and JL) are really concerning me right now. With a near 50/50 I don't see why we are being so conservative on the lynch either.

I think JB asked for me or Lab to pull posts together to support the lynch. I guess I can do that now...

Another thing about this post bothers me. You're picking out players that have vocalized about not voting FF but didn't point out players that had no opinion either way. I know they haven't posted much but when they did why didn't they acknowledge the situation and why doesn't that bother you?

 

[IceH2O]

hey guys new guy to site and to game

how am i supposed to play fish friedn you seem to have allott to say got any advice for the new guy?

still realy confused on this whole thing any and all help is greatly appreacated

so from what i gather from the first few posts the wholwe point is to find out who the bad guy is right??

Would have helped you out greatly to have read a few games.

1st you want to tell us your role so we can advise you better :laugh:

If you're a innocent you want to find the bad guys and get them lynched. If you are mafia then you want to look innocent while taking out the innocents. Its really pretty simple,we just make it hard.

 

[jpappy789]

Well Jpap lets ask this question. Who else is really on the table? Should we all just pile on to 1 player? This isn't being conservative, this is being realistic. Great we have really good odds at getting mafia on Day 1 but if there isn't another suspect how do we know we aren't just getting led around by mafia. The only thing I agree with Kash on is the fact that FF is an easy target to vote out and not look guilty if he turned up innocent.

What about low posters or posters without any real input.? Tank hasn't posted. Wiz hasn't posted anything of substance. Noods has been quiet but seems to not had time for the game so far. JL and Annie at least gave substance posts. Rich hasn't really dove in but usually doesn't. Do they deserve to be ignored? We could also say that any of them would be a good choice for a lynch vote because they seem to be hiding. Less waves means better players to be invested and recruited. If that person ends up being the opposite of your team its a good hit because its out of left field or you can make the case that they haven't been protown in the game by hiding.

That seems like a better reason to VOTE someone as mafia than hit, especially since no one is going to be claiming anything in the thread about hits if you're mafia. :screwy:

We got into the whole lets not pile on to one player scenario last game and it bit us in the ***. At this point, I find not voting for your top suspect to be scummy. It's D1, what else do you think we will find?

Because I don't like low posters or players hiding especially in this format I want to bring attention to them.

Of all the players not posting any substance Wiz stands out the most.

I vote to lynch Wiz.

I have no real suspicions for this vote except that I don't feel that lurking in this format is good for the town and I am hoping it brings out some substance and thought from him.

Awesome...you voted for someone who isn't posting but you're not suspicious of them? This is a cop out vote IMO. How does Wiz stand out the most? Has Noods not proven to be talkative?

 

[IceH2O]

Here Lab asks if FF is trying to sens signals to a communicating team (scum mainly).



Here FF says that she can't assume he's not already communicating. The investigation part sort of makes sense, but it's FF logic. If he's innocent then he should also hope that the CIs invest him so he can join...it makes even more sense since he claims to not do well when alone.



Here Lab questions the investigation part.



Now FF wants both teams to investigate him, which implies that he is not communicating. Contradicts the whole thing he told Lab about not assuming he's not already on a team, but I think FF was just trying to be confusing.

Asking to be investigated is always a red flag...trying to show off that you have nothing to hide is the opposite of what an innocent should do...you should prove through your posting that you are to be trusted.



Here DD asks FF is he is trying to imply innocence.



OK, I guess this makes sense in terms of FF logic. But again this claim of innocence is rather frightening.



You gave yourself away? Not really. You've been trying to get it out almost from the start that you're a noncomm. innocent.



Here Lab says its only more obvious that he's not on a team.



FF counters, again, saying she cannot assume he isn't already part of a team. I don't see any other way of interpreting this post...and of course, he's already implied that he is noncommunicating otherwise he wouldn't ask to be investigated.



Here Lab asks about the RC.



FF responds saying he is RCing...as a CI



Quickly retracts that, but still insisting that he is innocent. Odd, then, that he has twice questioned Lab for assuming he is not communicating when now he is RCing as a noncommunicating innocent.

Also, Labs post was a one sentence question so what part did you not read? I understand that this is FF, but honestly, her question was direct and didn't need much comprehension. It's hard to believe that FF mistook communicating for noncommunicating but that's not really the point.



Now the confusion starts...I don't buy it.

So the vote for FF is because he is playing like FF has in every game so far. Gotcha!

 

[IceH2O]

That seems like a better reason to VOTE someone as mafia than hit, especially since no one is going to be claiming anything in the thread about hits if you're mafia. :screwy:

We got into the whole lets not pile on to one player scenario last game and it bit us in the ***. At this point, I find not voting for your top suspect to be scummy. It's D1, what else do you think we will find?



Awesome...you voted for someone who isn't posting but you're not suspicious of them? This is a cop out vote IMO. How does Wiz stand out the most? Has Noods not proven to be talkative?

Wiz has posted more then the other low posters but not 1 word had any substance to it at all. I also stated I hoped this would get him to post more. I think jumping on FF when he already had a good number of votes and many fingers pointed at him is a cop out also.

 

[IceH2O]

I should have looked at when his last post was. Just looked and seen his last post was 33 so he hasn't been around to see whats been going on. I was only looking at what the post tally was and knew I hadn't seen anything of substance.

I retract my vote for Wiz

 

[Lab_Rat]

I vote to lynch Lab_Rat.

Being the third vote on FF just seems to easy of a place to hide. Plus she is trying to make sense out of what FF posts. Also FF did not get OMGUSy on Lab, FF voted on Lab before Lab voted. Dag voted for FF and so did DD, but FF did not get all freaked out.

Who knows what FF is? Can anyone really tell by how he is playing? Is a team really going to investigate him or hit him? FF is once again the center of attention. Trying to make sense out of FF or building a case against FF is a joke.

I think the whole 3rd vote thing is a scum sign is just plain :bs:. Why does it matter if I was third, or if I'd waited til later? FF got totally OMGUSy voting for me when I started questioning why he would ask scum to investigate him. Why did my questioning freak him out? I can't explain why Dag or DD didn't freak him out, maybe my questions were hitting home and scared him.

Did you miss the last game, the one you modded? You're suggesting we ignore him and let him float along, even with a good chance he's scum? That's some scummy suggestion there JL.

I was ready to move on from FF, but he surely has stimulated some interesting conversations. I am especially interested in those who are defending him or who are saying we should ignore him.

 

[IceH2O]

Same for Dag....So I can't say anything there.

Well I want to definitely see what the low posters make of the FF standoff before placing a real vote.

Dag,Wiz,Noods,Rich,Tank any thoughts?