Ok, a bunch of Rb's posts. I left out some, mostly were either discussion of various rules, or other non-value-added comments.
Starts getting on charlie a bit...
Charlie..pretty quiet as compared to previous games....new tactics with the new format...?
states some suspicion of me but later backs off after an explanation:
Just got a quick review...long work day....But, Sploke...could you clarify for me on this....I can read it two ways.
In previous games, a few Mafia could swing a lynch easily and could control the them when they outnumbered the Townies.
I don't think I have ever seen the townies control the lynchings until late in the game.
Just hoping it isn't a slip on your part....
a lot of trying to get people to discuss and talk more, give out more lists (common theme throughout game for him)
So, we have another 24 hrs, plus a little to night one....very minimal votes...and little to go on besides gut feel.
Maybe it is time for those who haven't, (including me) to post their thoughts to get more activity going...?
After my explanation:
Thought so, sploke, just checking, thanks for the response!
post count for everyone in game at that point...
In no particular order, taking Ice's initial list of players and rearranging only for post count...and it may or may not mean anything...as it doesn't reflect timing or meaning of posts (some were just chit chat and how to's)....
mee-mee 53
jpap 37
zsand 30
rbishop 26
charlie 16
hooked 15
plant 15
sov 13
sploke 12
kotd 11
jl66 11
mad 11
ogre 10
dd 8
joan 8
lady 7
cory 5
deputy 5
bkw 3
emma 0
I show 8 votes cast so far...
joan (2) by deputy 306 DD 287
jl66 (1) by ogre 279
charlie (1) by jl66 89
sovran (1) by zsand 232
deputy (1) by jpap 288
kotd (1) by joan 175
hook (1) by mee 280
Starts suspecting mee-mee, but nothing solid
Lady G...I too have noticed the Joan--Jpap interplay...or at least that is the impression I get.
I also am having some strange times getting a handle on mee-mee. If I had to list a top suspect, I am afraid she would be near if not at the top for reasons already noted by several others.
A lot of the voting seems to be more a tit for tat issue right now....
more gut feeling comments, but its still teh first day, so not much of anything else to go on at that point.
Well....a list, mainly of gut feel and small things that have already been talked about....other than mee-mee, no particular order...
mee-mee
joander..early voting
jl66..same early voting
jpap....the joan connection
just normal cautions...
DD
plant
kotd
sov
helpful post - everyone's lists all together
From what I can see, the following are lists since the start...kind of ignored posts that just talked about one individual of concern and this doen't mean the poster currently has the same point of view....
Zsand in #99 joan kotd Deputy bkw emma
jpap in #185 Deputy joan bkw cory
sploke in #160 joan jpap Lady G
kotd in #171 mee-mee joan
bkw in #174 ogre cory emma
plant in #187 joan Deputy jl66
Lady G in #199 joan jpap emma
rbishop in 313 mee-mee joan jl66 jpap
more suspicion of charlie here
as is charlie....big time
suspicion of jpappy?
I agree the townie/citizen justification is very weak. Several folks have done the same thing in this game, probably out of habit from the numerous games.
I do see a need to keep you in my view with the alleged connections to jpap posts. That is just IMO.
more interaction with charlie
Not trying to blow smoke charlie, just in a game where one of the major things you look for is descepancies, the change in volume and style of postings really stands out.
and more
Charlie, how about a list for us to consider? Thanks.
Gut feels are pretty much the norm for day one. Especially with two independent teams out there.....
more asking for more posts
Doesn't really matter if I am or not. Just want to see where everyone stands. I asked back in post #272 about more activity, noting that I myself had not proposed any names, and thought I would try to be more active today.
We have about 9 hours to get the CC's to agree on the most reasonable choice, whatever the reason. I have only played in one other game, and the mafia took me out the first night for whatever reason.
I think getting lists and exchanging info is the best way to play this type of game. Being controversial causes folks to slip up...just ask Hooked....
then asks for shorter lists...
With so few folks posting today and the complications of a split rebel team, tonight ought to be interesting. It may be hard to see a trend to a reasonable choice for us and some of the heated arguements could just be the rebels convincing one another to improve their chances, including convincing the other to prevent a loss on their team.
Maybe we should shorten the lists so not as many names are out there...?
votes mee-mee for the first day
Okay....8 hours and counting.....
I vote to lynch mee-mee
supporting mee-mee vote
yep, kind of looks like she backed into a corner big time.
starts getting on DC here for some strange posting patterns
So does your vote stand or not...?
starts going back and forth with DD about DC's posting. I get the feeling he thinks DD and DC are allies at this point.
Even though he admits to being drunk while posting? DC voted for joan in post 306 and they didn't switch their vote to DC until post 331....joan's previous vote was for kotd in post 175 and wasn't retracted until post 321. All after DC's vote. It doesn't appear that DC did anything based on a defense mechanism to counter joan....what am I missing DD?
I think this comment was at HN (not positive) but about the first day voting patterns:
Pretty cozy, eh? As is those voting for joan...
More back-and-forth with DD about DC
wow...I am really missing something, DD. In your post 354, where you thank DC for quoting the Charlie post, it is the post where he said he was drunk....
At DD, in response to her stated suspicion of rb
Thanks for coming in at the last minutes of day one to make a justification.....
Ok, now that I go back I see rb had stated some suspicion of KOTD a few days ago.
hmmm, kotd's vote was on joan also...
Looking for justification from ogre
sploke is viewing the thread...
come on ogre...whats your reasoning on me...your still viewing the thread..fess up...
more directed at DD
DD...you look at his post and acknowledge his quote but can't read the simple sentence "I posted while drunk" ..? Right, need more spin on it than that...
something jpappy said caught his attention:
and you didn't lose 2 CC's in one night jpap?
this post directed at ogre, explaining his suspicion:
But every one that was responding, and many were not, were giving 2-4 names. Narrowing it down to one, might have simplified things, Ogre.
There hasn't been much activity for a Saturday.
What makes those voting for joan special, is he was a CC. Something at least 5 folks knew....
I "missed" most of Friday, since I was at work. Ask most anyone that spends frequent hours on here at AC. I'm a post w h * * e. I am religously on from 4:30 AM EST to 6 AM EST, m-f, and most weekdays, 5:30 PM - 9 PM. On weekends, 5 AM till 9 PM. It is the nature of this beast.
I don't want people to follow me. I want them to post and help all of us draw the correct conclusions. I voted for mee-mee, and only time will truely tell, or future posts by her.
My only reason for noting your vote was you mentioned I was one to look at, after the nightfall, when all I did was ask for folks to post and complain about the non-voters.
gives another list, although ican't remember but I don't recall seeing any mention of JL from him until now. might have missed it though. somehow doesn't mention DC after all the stuff before....
Okay, jl66, jpap, and mee-mee are still on my list from day one.
And I still have jittery feelings about DD and Ogre.
Several folks posting styles have changed this game, not sure how much we can rely on this as an indicator....something to think about.
I vote to lynch mee-mee.
See you all in about 12 hrs....off to work.
comfortable in his mee-mee vote (i think we all were at that point)
Guess you can have a flippent attitude about it mee-mee....seems your next...
mee-mee is lynched, starts going after ogre
Well, another day dawns. Mad's lost is big time for us. I'll only have a few hours to review everything and work up new suspects before night falls on this shortened day. But tit should be enough, since their hasn't been much discussion of issues this game.
For now, I vote to lynch Ogre, the reasons have already been stated.
They do end up being on the same team:
Ogre and Mee-mee are connected they are bothe rebels. Whether on the same team, remains to be found.
If on the same team, it was a staged/planned interaction between them.
If not, Ogre was just riding a hunch and mee-mee responde, but not as well as she could have. She even admits in her final posts she doesn't play the "bad" side well.
goes back to his suspicion of KOTD
I think Ogre and KOTD are real buddies.....
back to DC after omitting him from the last list
After Ogre, the rebel is lynched tonight, my list for reviewing will be DC, KOTD and DD. Hopefully I can post in the AM before I leave for work.
I think we need to go back and look at previous posts for "contrived" disagreements from the rebels.
I almost think that having this game 50/50 CCs/Rebels is a bit too strong. But makes it very interesting, eh?
explaining his ogre vote:
It is just all the odd temperment in the posts that exist. Believe me, I can more than understand personnal issues that limit participation.
In the past, many folks have presented them out in the thread and made their speculations. Ogre doesn't normally take it personal and explains it from a game viewpoint. He wouldn't get trapped in a darned if I do, darned if I don't scenario, or if he did, he would do it politely.
This time, it was all "screw you", I'm on my own. Plus the contrived issues with Lady G. He could have just ignored here and not risen to the bait.
most recent post...
Seance vote for Mad.
I can see being leery of Deputy for the reasons that have been presented. Until I can find time to get something more solid or an obvious slip up...
I vote to lynch Deputy.
I get home late tonight...
I think chasing Cory is a waste of time.
So, fairly consistent for the most part, but as I stated before, picked out Ogre and mee-mee as CIA, could leave rb as an FBI. If he thought they were guilty, it would definitely help to put him in the clear to really push after rebels, and doens't really hurt him since they're not on his team.
Says going after CL is a waste of time, not sure why, other than he doesn't have any suspicion of him. Also, some correlation between CL and RB in the suspicion of KOTD
anyway, its out there, so make what you will of it.
