My dad's tank of death

yea, id use that as a last resort. but still, nothing makes me madder than someone who misstreats animals and just doesnt care.
 
You have done everything you can do, he is his own person and as sad as it is, he has the right to do whatever he wants with his fish.
Need to differentiate yourself as a young adult now.
 
Deffinately need to scoop the fish into a bucket or something before you smash it, and have a very believable alliby as to how it happened that pins the blame on randomness (or Niko). Say you got the fish from the floor, and hope it doesn't occur to him that a hammer to the glass would probably shock all the fish to death. Unplug everything too.

Not that I'm supporting smashing the tank with a hammer. Just some other people are so I figured I'd point out some safety tips :p:
 
FastFly67 said:
This is going to sound harsher than I mean it to but here goes.
It's his fishtank. I understand that it's frustrating seeing his unhealthy fish but when it comes down to it, it's his tank and his fish. You've offered him help in various forms and he's declined all of them. Sneaking behind his back isn't going to help a thing. It's not going to teach him and, if caught, could very well peeve him off. Remove yourself from the situation. I'm hoping you don't live at home so when you do visit, don't look at the tank don't talk about the tank, just act as if it's not there.
I view it this way, he's not going to take/get help until HE wants it.
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I entirely concur.

I don't want any animal to suffer. But they are just animals, not people. He has a right to treat his fish poorly, and you have a right to not associate with it.

It disgusts me to imagine what someone here stated, that some areas have "animal cruelty" laws that violate people's private property rights regarding fishkeeping.

The last thing we need is another excuse for Big Brotherment to intrude in our lives.
 
kazvorpal said:
I entirely concur.

I don't want any animal to suffer. But they are just animals, not people. He has a right to treat his fish poorly, and you have a right to not associate with it.

It disgusts me to imagine what someone here stated, that some areas have "animal cruelty" laws that violate people's private property rights regarding fishkeeping.

The last thing we need is another excuse for Big Brotherment to intrude in our lives.
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Really? You honestly would rather painful death to millions of small animals than to have fish cruelty an offence and "suffer the disgruntlement" of having "big brother" coming down on cruelty? To me, that means someone has issues. Selfish, too.
 
Dwarf Puffers said:
Really? You honestly would rather painful death to millions of small animals than to have fish cruelty an offence and "suffer the disgruntlement" of having "big brother" coming down on cruelty? To me, that means someone has issues. Selfish, too.
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No, it's selfish and petty to impose your will on another person, violating their natural rights, because you have a different idea of the value of lower animals than he does.

It is also arrogant, and self-destructive. There are many different sets of values out there, and when you support a precedent of violating one of them to impose another, you promote the same being done against you and yours.

It is a very real slippery slope, from giving a government the power to violate your rights to impose fish-quality standards on you, to the rest of PETA's insane goals, like banning the sale of meat, and the keeping of all pets, of any kind, under any conditions.

It's akin to people tolerating the imposition of sin taxes on smoking, and mocking the prediction that there would eventually be similar taxes to punish the sale of "unhealthy" food, which is now occurring in California...or the requirement of "no smoking areas" in "public places" (on private property), that have now escalated to the wholesale prohibition of smoking on any private property outside of a household, in some areas.

You need to protect liberty based on principle, not cherry-picking your own favorite cause for its violation, and then trusting that this magically will not come back to be used against YOU.
 
i'd rather we all perish painfully than live painfully and looking over our shoulders every time we barely blow a red light on a slippery road. that's neither here nor there... let's not drag politics in this one.

i was raised by marines. in my family if conventional don't work... break out the big guns.

i say see how many TANKS dad's willing to buy. i think those that have mentioned hammers and whatnot are problem solvers who see a problem and an obvious solution... take it from there...
 
dundadundun said:
i say see how many TANKS dad's willing to buy. i think those that have mentioned hammers and whatnot are problem solvers who see a problem and an obvious solution... take it from there...
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This would be an example of a situation in which government serves a valid role:

I would hope that, if he broke someone else's fish tank, the police would be called and he would be penalized. If the problem persisted, then he should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
 
Ok...

Whats more important, a fish tank or your family?

I think with wherever your priorities lie there are a set of options. Depends on how extreme you want to go...god knows there's been some pretty extreme suggestions in the thread already :rolleyes:
 
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