PETA's Stance on Aquariums

[J double R]

:iagree: Quite frankly, I consider myself a member of PETA. Do I agree with everything they do, or stand for? um, no - I eat fish, I have cats, a purebred puppy, and 3 saltwater fish tanks. I can't think of anyone that agrees with everything that a group they are part of does; most people have a mind of their own and don't believe everything they are told to believe by a certain group. I'm pretty sure that goes across the boards.

just because you wish animals were treated ethically (don't we all, really?) mean youre 'a member of PETA'. i could NEVER affiliate myself with that name, and i'm surprised you did.

 

[FL22]

I can't belive the hostility in this thread. The people here AC are the exception to fishkeeping, not the rule. Most people don't care to learn anything about fish, they just buy a kit, fill it with water, and buy whats pretty to them. The fish die, they go buy more. How many hundreds, if not thousands of threads do we have on how cruel we think keeping bettas in bowls, keeping goldfish in bowls, overstocking, crappy fishstores, large fish in small tanks, terrible living conditions, yet when a group thinks that a public campaign is needed to stop all this, everyone is upset.

I don't care what group it is, but I would be happy to NOT see bettas in small bowls in dirty crappy water in every fish store around, I'd be happy not to see goldfish bowls sold. I don't understand this hostile reaction from normally caring, concerned fishy people here.

The reason why there is hostility is because PETA is saying that ALL fish keeping is WRONG. Which its not. They are saying that everyone keeping fish is a bad person and is being cruel to those fish. I totally understand why people are getting all hostile over what PETA is saying. PETA is an outrageous group that cares more about animals than about humans lives.

 

[mattmartindrift]

The reason why there is hostility is because PETA is saying that ALL fish keeping is WRONG. Which its not. They are saying that everyone keeping fish is a bad person and is being cruel to those fish. I totally understand why people are getting all hostile over what PETA is saying. PETA is an outrageous group that cares more about animals than about humans lives.

I'm a vegetarian, no fish, nothing in the Animalia kingdom (I don't buy natural sponges to paint with) -- there's no way I could affiliate myself with them, ever.


PETA makes many good points, but many more ridiculous skewed claims based on specifically "chosen" scientific data, on good days, and plain 'ol made-up data on others.

They're rather hypocritical considering they don't have the same thoughts about other speicies commonly kept in households. Domesticated cats/dogs are similar to tank/farm-bred aquatic critters in their relianace on humans to live.

 

[mandy21]

Hey mandy, does that mean you don't eat meat? You only eat vegetables, fish, and eggs only?

I eat a lot more than that, but no I don't eat meat, dairy, eggs. Of course, eating fish is not kosher with PETA, but that falls into that whole "don't agree with everything with a group" thing.

I actually don't have a problem with hunters/small farmers that treat their animals as they should be. What I don't agree with is the large farms that do some horrendous things. I refuse to give money to that.

I think that there are causes that don't get attention without some groups going farther than the normal person. I find a lot of the things they do admirable. I really think more people around here consider animals pretty much their play things and willing to kill them whenever they want for no reason. I just saw a video that my cousins (20 years old) took of them taking a cat in a box, letting it go and shooting it but not killing it and laughing because it didn't die right away. They claimed this male cat killed kittens (which my grandma wanted to have drowned anyways)... Sadly, that's one of very very many stories I have heard just in one area. Redneck land where I'm from. My experience tells me that most people don't really care much about animals. The local police departments and humane societies wouldn't do anything about animal cruelty in my area because it's considered "normal". I also know of many puppy mills that Amish (I'm from Ohio, the world's largest population of Amish) and the only action ever taken against them and trying to shut them down is from PETA jumping in and protesting. Heck, I didn't even know they existed not far from my house and they are disgustingly run.

When I know that they do have a lot of good things to say and do a lot of good I have no problem associating with that. I think most people are not the extremists that make the news or headlines (not because of their celebrity status, but because of the extremist actions). I don't have issues with people that eat meat, hunt, otherwise do stuff like that. That is their choice. Just not many seem to accept my choice in what I eat (which is a bit crazy).

 

[mandy21]

PETA is an outrageous group that cares more about animals than about humans lives.

heh, I have been called many things when I've said that since a little girl . . . people are pretty crappy, IMO, and have to earn my respect and caring. My own animals and my own family and friends are spot on equal and always will be.

 

[Pufferpunk]

I don't eat mammals & eat only free-range/cage free eggs.

 

[H3D]

technically. . . once the first shipment of meat actually rots in the store display cases, the store will either stop buying so much meat or the companies will stop making so much of it. same with fish. while buying that individual fish makes a difference in its life, it also encourages the trade overall. if you can't sell 5 bettas every week, you're not going to order 35 of them with every shipment.

That may have been true in the past, but not with the invention of the retail chain. Buying items in bulk costs so much less that the waste doesn't matter. You would be appalled at how much meat grocery stores throw away weekly. The same principles can be applied to the pet chain stores. The chains will typically order (or be forced) the same amount regardless of waste.

 

[H3D]

My own animals and my own family and friends are spot on equal and always will be.

Animals can be your friends... You can "consider" them part of your family... But they will never be human beings, thus they can never be considered an equal either.

 

[Hooked Newbie]

I agree that PETA does some good things, but they also take other things to a zealous level. Similar to Greenpeace. Are they good organizations, yes. Are they corrupted internally by special interests of prominent members, yes. IMO, any absolute is going to fail. I'd gladly send them money or become active in their causes if they would promote responsible practices over prohibition. I've got to go out back and grill up my organically farmed / responsibly killed Buffalo steak now.

 

[Sarge_857]

PETA- People Eat Tasty Animals.

i dont mind peta. i like the fact they they want people to treat animals respectively, so do i. but goin around and splashin red paint on people wearin fur is WAY wacko IMO. I love my aquarium, ive never done anything bad to any of the inhabitants.