Problems with shipping fish?

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Chronic Aquarium Requisition Disorder. The technical medical diagnosis defines the condition as a targeted variation of the more familiar obsessive-compulsive disorder in which the affected individual cannot resist the desire to acquire additional aquariums of increasingly greater size and complexity through any means possible in order to fulfill the uncontrollable drive to house a greater variety of fish, frogs, invertebrates, plants and other aquatic organisms with differing care requirements. ?????

I coined the term about 20 years ago and me and my friends used it back in the day, but as we've went our separate ways I haven't had anyone to talk fish with, so I haven't used it. I did use it on this site way back when, but it never really took.

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It was nerve-racking for sure. My wife and especially the mayor of my household as we call him, my 9yr/old was on constant lookout. It was 20degF or less for days and I knew the heat pack packed with them was supposedly rated for 72hrs. The first package came so ridiculously fast, where could this second one be?

I do have a pretty large local aquaria group that I've never met up in person with, but in the pre-Rona days used to have meet ups, auctions, etc. That would be the place to buy from. I've always avoided it because it would likely get me into more tanks, which I really can't (or shouldn't) support.
Chronic Aquarium Requisition Disorder. The technical medical diagnosis defines the condition as a targeted variation of the more familiar obsessive-compulsive disorder in which the affected individual cannot resist the desire to acquire additional aquariums of increasingly greater size and complexity through any means possible in order to fulfill the uncontrollable drive to house a greater variety of fish, frogs, invertebrates, plants and other aquatic organisms with differing care requirements. ?????

I coined the term about 20 years ago and me and my friends used it back in the day, but as we've went our separate ways I haven't had anyone to talk fish with, so I haven't used it. I did use it on this site way back when, but it never really took.

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lol I figured it was something like that, I just couldn’t figure out the R. I’ve been afflicted for a long time. If I wasn’t married, I’d be over run with tanks, she keeps me in check
 
Ah got it! That's pretty clever!

My old self Googled it and the first thing that popped up was "Center for Autism and Related Disorders". That could possibly fit here too. :oops: :eek:
 
I just had a fish delivered today. It was shipped out yesterday at 530p and arrived at 1015am today. It was in a styrofoam lined box and the bag was wrapped in thick insulating paper with 3 heat packs taped to the styrofoam top and a piece of media sponge in the bag. The fish is in a QT and is already active and curious.
 
Like I said, people who know how to ship fish usually have them arrive alive even when delayed some. And good sjippers always make good on DOAs. The problem is often on the buyers end because the cost of shipping fast is not cheap. So as buyers we find it hard to buy say $200 worth of fish and then have to pay over $100 to get them overnight. My rule of thumb has always been, "Fill the box!" when you order fish shipped.

The fastest way to have fish shipped is airport to airport. I used to do that. I would arrange for flights to arrive about 10-11 pm. I did this because the drive from where I live to NYC airports during most hours is up to 2 hours each way, At that time of night I do it in about 40 minutes. This shipping methids is also usually the least expensive. However, since the problem with terrorism loomed, one needs to register with the airlines to drop and usually to pick-upget shipments. That didn't apply when I was doing this. Also, Covid has put a dent in the number of flights as well as the excess space available in cargo holds,. So this is a consideration these days. It has also affected all of the other potential shippers as well.
 
I just had a fish delivered today. It was shipped out yesterday at 530p and arrived at 1015am today. It was in a styrofoam lined box and the bag was wrapped in thick insulating paper with 3 heat packs taped to the styrofoam top and a piece of media sponge in the bag. The fish is in a QT and is already active and curious.

Nice! Sorry if I missed it somewhere, but what did you get?

The fish I'm waiting on shipped today. They're just gold barbs. Nothing special, just something I can't find locally w/ out having a LFS order them. Like I say, I placed this order w/ the same outfit I got my weather loaches from because they were so great with them.

Even my first order of frozen solid gold barbs was packed and wrapped in a maybe 10"x"10" box that was lined with ~1" styrofoam with a 72hr heatpack. Unfortunately it would have taken a lot more than that to survive the 6 days they were in transit w/ most of that time being in sub-freezing ambient temps.

The seller told me he has the least issues with FedEx and said that his problems with them are about 1 in 10 vs the USPS, so apparently the issue I had was rare.
 
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Nice! Sorry if I missed it somewhere, but what did you get?

The fish I'm waiting on shipped today. They're just gold barbs. Nothing special, just something I can't find locally w/ out having a LFS order them. Like I say, I placed this order w/ the same outfit I got my weather loaches from because they were so great with them.

Even my first order of frozen solid gold barbs was packed and wrapped in a maybe 10"x"10" box that was lined with ~1" styrofoam with a 72hr heatpack. Unfortunately it would have taken a lot more than that to survive the 6 days they were in transit w/ most of that time being in sub-freezing ambient temps.

The seller told me he has the least issues with FedEx and said that his problems with them are about 1 in 10 vs the USPS, so apparently the issue I had was rare.
Ya six days below freezing is never going to end well, glad they sent you replacement fish ?. The main point of my post today was to show how the timeframe of overnight shipments usually look. . I know Covid has changed things a little tho. But that timeframe is how every overnight shipment I’ve had has gone. One cool thing was I was sent a tracker one hour ahead of time that showed a map with the drivers location in real time.
The fish I got is a 5 star general- hemichromis frempongi. I’ll try to get some pics up soon, we also got a 9 week old puppy last week and he’s really keeping me busy today lol
 
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Like I said, people who know how to ship fish usually have them arrive alive even when delayed some. And good sjippers always make good on DOAs. The problem is often on the buyers end because the cost of shipping fast is not cheap. So as buyers we find it hard to buy say $200 worth of fish and then have to pay over $100 to get them overnight. My rule of thumb has always been, "Fill the box!" when you order fish shipped.

The fastest way to have fish shipped is airport to airport. I used to do that. I would arrange for flights to arrive about 10-11 pm. I did this because the drive from where I live to NYC airports during most hours is up to 2 hours each way, At that time of night I do it in about 40 minutes. This shipping methids is also usually the least expensive. However, since the problem with terrorism loomed, one needs to register with the airlines to drop and usually to pick-upget shipments. That didn't apply when I was doing this. Also, Covid has put a dent in the number of flights as well as the excess space available in cargo holds,. So this is a consideration these days. It has also affected all of the other potential shippers as well.
I usually select overnight, but it depends on the value of the fish and more importantly the location of the seller. For example I live in AZ, so if the fish is coming from Southern CA in April, I’ll select the cheapest option.
 
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