Mafia 78- The Gunslinger Returns...The Play

[Fishfriend1]

It was in the first one. I meant to answer both in the post but I got confused.

Oh, ok.

Actaully he was answering my question about Dag and yes I'm ok with an "I don't know" as an answer it it's the truth it certainly preferable to a pile of BS.

More to the point have you answered the question you're asking Rich about?

Yes, im pretty sure i did:

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Dag: Agrees with ive that kashta put at least one teammate on her list, either me of JS. Since i know my role, i would say JS. Also, he thinks thank Kashta was setting up her team. Nothing really scummy from him.
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Yet, anyway. If he does do something scummy, and i notice, i'll tell ya.

 

[Lady G]

Ya know Hay, I just don't know about you....

It was just a theory. Calm your farm. Lol. But you getting all defensive about it makes me think it might be plausible.. And if she was 95% certain she was going to die, why would she still try get chill to change to you? The more logical approach would be to distance fellow mafia. Eg. You.

How would that be the more logical choice? If Rich was her team mate, and Chill shot him instead they would still be down one. If he is innocent, they would of won the game. That is why she would try and get Chill to switch to him IMO, not to out another team mate.

Because when Kash made her "mistake", LG was kinda concervitive about it but still jumped on the train about it, and I thought to myself, If Kash turns up evil at anytime in the game, then LG would be on my list. Just her posting about Kash never added up.

And for everyone, YES I think everyone was over reacting about kash's mistake, cause something like that doesn't mean she is scum (but in this case she happend to be).

I didn't jump on a "train" about it, I read her post...commented she was wrong, heck she even had me as WW in the game and I knew I wasn't. If you didn't notice...she kept my name in all her posts with it, how was I on a train about it?
Nope obviously we did not over react to her "mistake".

Yeah! Great choice chill. I would never of thought of kash.. Wow. Let's get another

Why?

Sorry I didn't see. My top 3 are JS, rich and now LG after knowing kash's role

And you think I am mafia after finding out her role?

Not sure about labby. Whom are you considering at this point in time?

You ask this to Chill while all the stuff was going on between Kash, Tay and I. Where you getting worried?

Okay well I think lots of people over reacted to kash's little mistake but I'm not sure either way. I've told you my main suspects; JS and rich. The reasons for these I stated before but I'll say again for you before sleep. Js seems nervous and not in control, as far as jumping to conclusions then back pedaling. As for rich, the thing I see most scummy is him being so worried and defensive everytime he gets mentioned in a list. A townie wouldn't do this, mafia would.

I hope I helped a little. Goodluck chill. When I wake up I expect to see a scumbag drowning in wiskey

Well, she didn't drown in whiskey...but she did get shot. Again, the everyone over reacted to Kashs "little" mistake.

Or you could trust him? If he fake role claimed I'm sure the real investor wouldn't cone out by now.

Here I had mentioned why I would see Pap innocent instead of mafia, because if he was mafia and made the claim of Ice is innocent...he most likely knew he would be the next invest. I do not think he would of made the claim knowing that.
You take it to a "fake role claim". I never said anything about not believing he got the invest, just why I would see him more innocent for revealing it.
It seemed to me you were worried he would be invested and found innocent, giving us one more to trust.

 

[Chill]

Oh, ok.



Yes, im pretty sure i did:



Yet, anyway. If he does do something scummy, and i notice, i'll tell ya.

Okay I'm assuming "agrees with ive" is "agrees with Ice"? If I'm wrong please tell me.

The question you asked Rich about though, was would scum put up three of their mates on the list? Since one of the names on everybody list was was you obviously you're going to say no, but would they put up both Kash and Rich?

 

[Chill]

Haydn I think I asked you two questions that you didn't respond to. I'll repost them.

 

[Lady G]

Ok, after thinking more. I really am inclined to believe Pap is innocent. Which in turn would makes Ice. Yes, I can see the advantage if mafia for Pap and especially if Ice is too...but I'm thinking with invests out there (yes, I know there is a chance the mafia gets it), but still I would think his chances of getting investigated after the claim is to high of a risk.
Tay and Rich, well I could be wrong of course but I am also leaning them more innocent after Kash was shown Mafia.

I still say our 4 lay in these names....
FF
Hay
JB
Dag
JS
At this point, to me JS and Hay stand out quite a bit...JB sorry to say but I think he is up there pretty high also.

 

[Chill]

yes you think or yes you thought?

Because when Kash made her "mistake", LG was kinda concervitive about it but still jumped on the train about it, and I thought to myself, If Kash turns up evil at anytime in the game, then LG would be on my list. Just her posting about Kash never added up.

And for everyone, YES I think everyone was over reacting about kash's mistake, cause something like that doesn't mean she is scum (but in this case she happend to be).

Did you mean to say you thought at the time they were over reacting or do you really still think they were over reacting?

 

[Chill]

Wow that last sentence throws me there Haydn. That wold be a slinger's death scum die by bullet.

Okay well I think lots of people over reacted to kash's little mistake but I'm not sure either way. I've told you my main suspects; JS and rich. The reasons for these I stated before but I'll say again for you before sleep. Js seems nervous and not in control, as far as jumping to conclusions then back pedaling. As for rich, the thing I see most scummy is him being so worried and defensive everytime he gets mentioned in a list. A townie wouldn't do this, mafia would.

I hope I helped a little. Goodluck chill. When I wake up I expect to see a scumbag drowning in wiskey

Ok there wasn't a question here, but why would you expect to see a scumbag drowning when scum get shot?

 

[Lady G]

Sorry, we just discussed it in our scum den and she said she would cover and told me to agree.

Oh woops. I forgot I'm not ment to give roles away. Sorry!!

And this is doing what exactly to help anyone besides the maifa???

 

[Lady G]

I have been wondering the same thing since yesterday. It really seemed like every person had Kashta on their list of scum so she had to know that there was a highly likely chance she was going to get shot, Chill had pretty much even said from the moment he picked up the gun that Kashta was most likely going to be his first shot. So the question becomes was Kashta going for the win since the UDs or was she setting up her team for the win? I have a strong suspicion that she was setting up her team for the win instead of doing a last ditch effort to pull out a W today.

Ok Dag, you were the first to post about it possibly being a "set up". Can you tell me how this would set up her team for the win? Why would see go for the set up...when she could go for the win?

I considered it to have the possibility to be distancing of course. I just feel that it was too overboard to simply be a plan to make a gap between them. If we take your word that Ice is in fact innocent, it makes me believe then that LG has a higher chance of being scum. I am not totally convinced that LG is scum, I think there is an even higher chance of Rich being scum then LG.

This was to Pap asking why you can't let the Ice/LG distancing go. You do realize I wasn't the only person seeing Ice as mafia at one point. How did this make me more likely scum?

So after reading that I assume that you believe Kashta was going for the win with the last shot even though Chill had said a couple of times that he was most likely going to shoot Kashta? I think it is much more likely that Kashta was setting her team up for the win. However I think that you are correct when you said that Kashta probably threw at least one teammate on her list, which would have to be either JS or FF.

You are really pushing for the she was setting her team up for the win thing...please explain how it would set them up for the win.

 

[jpappy789]

Not sure what I want to ask today but let's start with this:

I know some of you had commented on this all ready but for those who didn't Do you think Kash was going all out for the win or was she trying to ensure the team win by building some cred for her team?

I also don't have a read on Dag. If memory serves I only played with him twice and both times I read him wrong, so if anyone has any thoughts on Dag so far this game can you post them? Sorry Dag not picking on you just trying to be thorough.

At this point, I'm leaning towards she was going for the win. I have to agree that in that position she wouldn't need to distance from a teammate when we still only have two misses. All she had to do was convince one person to guess wrong. The best situation for her was to 1) go for the win and 2) if that didn't work out at least leave a big question mark about one of the players left.

I'm iffy on Dag. Out of the 5 people that I do not trust he's one of them. I don't think I've ever been able to get a solid read on him...I've always followed Lab's lead when I'm on a communicating team with her and usually I was originally wrong.

Yesterday the town was almost unanimous in their suspect list: Kash, Rich, and FF made almost every list. Some scum had to list them so how likely is it that scum would put more than one of their own on a list?

If they all ignored Kash it would have been too obvious. Rich was pretty much everyone's suspect before it was asked and FF just rounded out the list because he always posts like scum. I think it was a very safe list for scum to hide behind.

However, I do not know if they would have put more than one teammate on their list but as I said it would have been pretty easy to do so. FF's recent play makes me want to think they did.

"Rich is a grumpy guy this game, and that last bit with kashta where she tried to get him shot was probably last minute distancing." Thats what it was supposed to read. And thats how i see it, if you think its a scummy way to see things, then shoot me, i can handle the gun (i hope)



Well no, but 5 reasons it was wrong seems a little overkill to me.

Did you see the novel he wrote? I tried to respond to all the points he made up about me. I'm not going to call BS without a counter argument.

Tell me FF, what about JB's argument makes sense to you, if any of it? And I mean actually take what he says about me and let me know what about that is actually incriminating and not a pile of turds. Ignore my "defensiveness" and just straight up tell me what is scummy about what I have done.