Define Overstocking.
- Thread starter Rallysman
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so according to what has been said so far about grow out tanks i should not have bought have the fish i did then grew them out in an 85g tank until i bought the 180g i have now.
apparently i should have waited until i had the said tank because i was planning on getting the tank but did not have it yet.
this is the type if fish nazism that really p's me off, yes quite a few people say they will upgrade and yes most don't but quite a lot do.
also if we take the whole max fish in the tank when you first buy them as babies but will be too large when fully grown issue, again this would also mean half the fish i own i should not have.
i buy fish as fillers to make the tank look a bit more busy whilst the main fish are growing, i sell them on once they need to go or if i find the fish that i have been looking for and maybe for a while.
if i stuck by some of the so called rules posted here i would have only got my current fish last year and only have 3 of the in the tank.
as for overstocking its you think its overstocked it probably is thats my rule.
apparently i should have waited until i had the said tank because i was planning on getting the tank but did not have it yet.
this is the type if fish nazism that really p's me off, yes quite a few people say they will upgrade and yes most don't but quite a lot do.
also if we take the whole max fish in the tank when you first buy them as babies but will be too large when fully grown issue, again this would also mean half the fish i own i should not have.
i buy fish as fillers to make the tank look a bit more busy whilst the main fish are growing, i sell them on once they need to go or if i find the fish that i have been looking for and maybe for a while.
if i stuck by some of the so called rules posted here i would have only got my current fish last year and only have 3 of the in the tank.
as for overstocking its you think its overstocked it probably is thats my rule.
The definition of overstock to me is a website devoted to having bargin prices on almost anything you need, they have a website for you to peruse of you dont believe me. www.overstock.com they say you can save over 80% on things....thats my definition of Overstock..
most experience people dont overstock tanks i think its mostly a noob problem from bad info. when i talk about dont buy fish unless you have the rigth tank size it gose mostly to the people starting out.
not really,3 khulies would be ok..I have kept a betta tank that had 3 males (father and 2 sons) 7 females,I dont reccomend anybody doing this but I never had problems.
I have succesfully kept male bettas with female bettas no problem
Kuhlis only get 4 inches long.
Often times you confuse them with Dojo loaches.
Kuhli:
Dojos (who get up to 10 inches long):
This goes back to my orginal post here. If you analyze what they're saying, you can distinguish the noobs/uninformed from those who know what they're doing:
Poster: "I have an 8 inch arowana in my 20 gal. and I want to add (insert ridiculous addition here). Do you think I'll be overstocked?"
"Informed" replier: "Yes. You're already overstocked with that arowana and you'll need at least 100g for that fish alone."
Poster: "No, the arowana is fine. He's eating and not showing any signs of stress. Besides, I'm getting a 200g in (whatever amount of time...doesn't really matter)."
The previous is most likely to have been an exchange between a complete noob or uninformed/poorly informed person and someone trying to help them.
Meanwhile, a question posed by an informed person who genuinely plans on getting a larger tank (and they most likely WILL get one) might go something like this:
Poster: "Hi, I'm going to be getting a 200 gal. tank in a few weeks, once my basement is finished. I saw a 6 inch silver arowana in my LFS marked ridiculousy low so I pounced on it and grabbed it before someone else did. My question is this: Will he be okay in my 29 gal. growout tank until I get the new one set up or should I bring him back?"
Now, if it were me, I wouldn't jump on this guy and tell him that he shouldn't have bought the fish to begin with. I would answer that, yes, the fish will be fine in the 29g for a little bit. However, if he intends on keeping that fish healthy, he WILL need to move it to a larger tank and that he should be ready to commit to the larger tank. That's it.
I wouldn't tell him that he shouldn't have purchased the fish to begin with because I have to take him at his word that he's going to upgrade. If he doesn't, then he'll have an unhappy fish (he'll know because he'll have asked him) that will eventually die and he'll be out a couple of bucks. Telling him that he shouldn't have bought the fish until he was able to house its adult size properly is the wrong way to go. That fish has a long way to go before it reaches that size. There is wiggle room. Berating the purchase doesn't help the person with the question. Informing them that they will need to upgrade (especially if the fish is really small at the time of the question) is the way to go. And if the person formerly had no intention of upgrading but later did as a result of your advice then this forum will have served its function.
Othewise, you're just scolding someone instead of informing them and that doesn't do anything for anybody.
I looked at your tank and thought it was over loaded LOL! and I did not know you could keep guppies in with rams.
On the flip side, someone can have their 200gal set up and ready to go and have their new purchase in a 40gal QT. Suddenly, their 200gal breaks and floods their basement and they won't be able to get another 200gal until their flood insurance check comes in the mail, which won't be for another 6 weeks.
My point is, things can happen either way. I just don't think you should assume that everyone is lying. Like I said before, go with what you're given and advise accordingly.
this comes a lot from being in the chat. some comes in with dead fish or fish about to die. turns out they are overstocked. tell them they are overstocked and they turn around saying oh i am getting a 200 gal tank.
i dont assume that everyone is lying. i do go with what im given and advise accordingly. it just the one case i was that was on my mind.
i am not going to tell someone like DiXoN or any of the hundreds of memebers that know what they are doing.
