Alright gang, this is going to be a long one.
But first a question: Has Maelstrom posted since the night??!?!??! OK he has... whew.
I hope this explains what I was thinking and what I am thinking. I hope it isn't too disjointed.
:iagree: Is lucky trying to start a train already? I had not posted anything in the game thread when lucky posted his comment.......
Well, not much time to post right now; I am in the middle of tank maint., not much to talk about yet anyway......should be an interesting game, I have never played one like this before.
OK, is lucky actually training or just getting excited by the game play. After reading through a lot of these, I'm beginning to think, if lucky is/was mafia, then he was the turn. If he was innocent, then he might have been the turn too.
Wow take the wife out for dinner and you come back to a novel.
Jarred you thought we had a lot of post before. Hehe. have a cup of coffee ready to read all this.
A lot of lively discussion. I tend to think that mael's was a random vote, which he will never admit now.
Lucky, Mael and Gunslinger seem to be having a good time stirring things up. I wonder about where they are aligned.
I also worry about those who have not spoke at all. We have another day for that to change so I wont put much on that yet.
Right now gunslinger would be top on my list. He is going out of his way to push others as candidates. I don't feel an early random vote is that important.
Here Rich has gun as top of his list. I'm wondering if my trap did catch someone, just not the first one. Noods jumped onto gun, then rich saw her and followed?
I put gun as number one on my current list #234. I think that everything that can be said about mael has been said.
I have been reading all of this all morning and I get the impression that if anyone says anything they get raked over the coals. Which is part of the fun. I am reading all of this one more time and will post shortly.
I stink at multy quotes but I will see what I can do.
MOre
My list.
Gun he has been pushing mael and keeping him in the spot light. Seems very interested in removing him.
Mael - the early vote was odd, may have been to stir things up but he refuses to confirm that and gets quite hostile when it keeps coming up.
Noodles and C-note something just not quite right here. just a feeling no real evidence.
thinks poorly of noods and C-note... people I regard as most likely innocent.
i have to go out for a while should be back by night fall. Just in case I vote to lynch Gunslinger.
known innocent
And why should we all think that you know all/see all? Your vote is on me and I for one know that vote is not on the side of the town, so why should your infinite wisdom be taken for truth? Continue on with your vandetta for me and the rest of the town will see you for what you really are. If you are so certain of your vote on me than I am absolutely certain who my vote will be on tomorrow if I make it through the night...
This is early on, but after the ruckus with the gunslinger vote, my opinion started to shift slightly... more later. However, at this point I had to stay on her or get nuked myself after all the crap I stirred up.
This all quite interesting and leads to more thought. I see no reason to change my vote I still think guns is a mafia. I guess we see.
All of this back forth has not done anything to change my mind.
I think mael is playing hard but I don't have him as my top suspect right now.
Noodles is worrisome and lucky is of interest to me. they both seem to be saying a lot while not saying anything.
We still have few that I have no feelngs for at all since they have not said anything.
The others that have taken an active part today have not done anything to make me suspect them as of yet.
Lucky and noods is of interest to rich. If it's the case where lucky and noods were both CI, then this makes Rich look pretty bad.
Gah! I was really hoping I was right. Well, I am still thinking Ogre is my best option at this point. He is so certain that I am mafia and need to be taken out; well I know that I am not, so why does he want me out of the way so bad? Another innocent out of the way???
I need the other teams recruitment.
If its not in the PM box by 11 PM EST I will randomly choose a player. You really don't want to risk the roll of the dice do you?
Following days will require sending in recruitments after each nightfall. This forces the teams to somewhat protect their choice from lynchings.If a choice is not sent in within 2 hours after night fall a player will be chosen for that team by random. All players will be put into the pool so a player from your own team might end up being your choice thus pretty much negating an additional team mate. Also a player from the other team could be chosen giving you a death penalty to your team.
Did one of the teams not send in a recruitment and that's why someone weird got picked and caused all the trouble?
Interesting, I knew I would be on people's lists since I voted for an innocent. I went with what I thought was right.
I think Ogre is innocent, he just enjoys talking and analyzing probably why he is a fixture in these games. He makes some valid points. The only question I have about Ogre is was the gun thing a lets see what happens when I say this or a scheme by a veteran mafia player to remove some one they thought was dangerous.
I am very wary of noodles and lucky at this point. I keep reading their posts and try to get a feel for them.
C-note seems innocent to me right now, we shall see.
The others, I am waiting for more info.
Still wary of lucky and noods. Maybe he's hoping, I'll nuke myself and save the mafia, the trouble.
Here we go. my thoughts on all of this so far.
CJ said very little the first day, decided to vote on Ogre, then we had the I am stressed this game is getting me thing. I find it hard to believe an adult would get that stressed over an online game or really think the forum would hate him if he played badly. To prove he was really confused and not hiding anything the vote is back on Ogre. Today he seems to be playing just fine. the whole thing sends up all kinds of alarms to me.
C-note has been on everyone. Seems to be doing what an innocent towns person would do, try to get people to speak to see if he can pry lose that important fact that will help us come to a good decision. I would like to know what his list is currently.
Lucky told us all we had a bad first night. Agreed with a few comments made by C-note and has not really said anything. He is on my list.
Lady G supported Gun which turned out was correct. Is all over Ogre. either she is sure of his guilt or she has reasons to want him out. She has also pointed the finger at mael and Lucky. I am not sure about her.
Mael has been quiet since the vote last evening. The last we knew he thought DD was the best suspect.
John had that weird exchange with CJ and then voted for him. Something about that whole thing was just not right.
Opi woted for MC we are not sure why. Didnt post much but gathered that there was no information to be gained anyway so I will just vote, hopefully she will form an opinion or two today.
Ogre has gone out of his way to stay in the spotlight, had to tell us all that he was right and what the curerent situation is. He is firmly convinced that Noodles is the one that needs to go. How can you be that sure unless you know more than most of us can? He also does not like me because I voted for Guns. I had him number one long before he sprung his "Trap".
Noodles has spent most of her posts trelling us she is innocent and that we will regret voting her out. Little else to add except for her going at Ogre, I imagine mostly because she is number one on his list. She is my number one right now. Long way to go though.
MC has made a few posts agreeing with this or that, that someone said and seems to have his siights set on Ogre as well, definetly bears watching.
Note that Dawg isn't in this list.
Absolutely not so. My "claims of innocence & regret if voted out" were direct replies to Ogre and not to be the poor victim in everyones eyes. I am not worried if voted out, it's just a game for crying out loud! I am just surprised (surprised may not be the right word but I am in a hurry)at how fixed Ogre is on getting me out of the way, from the very beginning. I have participated plenty aside from my interactions with ogre...
I guess not everyone has insightful, helpful wisdom to share and are just trying to find the mafia the best they can as well as stay alive, cause it's all about the numbers, isn't it?
All true
I came on here..pretty much dead set that I though Ogre had to be Mafia (not saying I don't still feel that way). Now after reading through some of the posts..I'm just not sure what I think. I see the case for Noodles I really do, I see Lucky as possible mafia his post just don't add up to me. Dawg..I can see it for him too. As for Mael, I just don't know I am still very wary of them, but Ogre and Noodles are throwing more flags then anyone at this point.
For now though my feeling are either Ogre or Noodles has to be mafia, that or they are doing one heck of a job pulling the wool over our eyes and they both are. I really don't see that, but it is possible. I am sure my vote will be for one or the other.
This is kind of agreeing with the town, but still naming other ahead of dawg.
Sees to me we are going over the same things, was Orge being crafty to trap evil doers or was he trying to rid the games of guns. I voted for guns because I thought he was guilty i was incorrect. Mr Ogre did not influence my decisions.
C-note is on dawg buit I dont quite follow the logic. I have only played one other time but i dont see how is actions would influence a vote on mael by saying DD.
But did noods influence your vote on gun?
So, after reading through again this is where I see everyone at this time.
Noodles-Not sitting good with me, I can see a case for her.
Ogre-Not sitting good with me either, but I can't see both him and Noods as Mafia.
Mostlycichlids-Really, not getting much from him.
Rich-Even though I haven't said much about him, I go back and forth when reading his posts.
Dawg-I can see a slight case here, but I go back and forth with thoughts on him each game I have played with him.
DD-Really I do not see anything that makes me feel she is evil.
Opi-Nothing stands out to me from them.
Lucky-Most his posts make me uneasy, haven't seen much to make me feel he is innocent.
Cj-Seems confused at times and classic noob...although if they are mafia they could have a experienced player with them telling them to do this. Aside from last nightfall really nothing jumps out to me though.
JL-Haven't seen anything from him to make me feel Mafia.
C-note-No mafia feel from them either.
Mael-Still uneasy about them, but others are jumping out more at this time.
So, my short list would have to be...Ogre or Noodles, Lucky, possible Rich and or Dawg.
If I had to vote now it would go to either Ogre or Noodles.
At this point there are three mafia... look who ladyg has as 'going back and forth'.
OMG! I was just starting my post so this is not an OMGUS..well maybe it could be an OMGUS from last night......but whatever! I vote to lynch Ogre I have stated my thoughts on him the past few days so I refuse to do so again. Sorry Ogre - but you seem to be so sure I am on the opposing team; I know what team I am on, so I vote for you.
Acceptable.
Wow we have votes and accusations flying everywhere. Some pretty thin logic but we have not all that much to go on either.
I suspect or feel mafia leanings for ogre and c-note but that just may be they are the most active.
Ogre and Noodles are on each other but they have been since almost post one. Maybe this is ruse to make us not pay that much attention to them.
Lucky and dawg have been strong in their opinions. Again is this tactics or personalities.
I must think some more on this.
Not sure what to make of this post...
I'm going to have to do more reading and make a vote later today. So far here are my thoughts on my main suspects in no particular order.
Mael - Sure has been quiet since nightfall this is why I am suspecting he may have been the turn. Not sold on him though because he may have also been turned to a CI. Haven't decided which way I have him falling yet. I need to see some more posts from him.
C-note - Says he's not skimming my posts but he sure seems to be ignoring them. This has raised my suspicions of him. Not sure if he's trying to help the town or cover for someone else.
MC - He still has me very suspicious about him. The last several posts make me nervous. I'm not ready to vote him yet but I'm keeping my eyes open.
Ogre - Hmmm...I don't really know what to say but he totally has me feeling he is mafia. I understand the whole trap deal but something with the whole....I told you Guns was innocent...thing still doesn't sit well with me.
If I had to vote right now I think I would vote for C-note for the reasons stated above. Not as an OMGUS but because I still think he is covering up for Mael for some reason and Mael may have been his turn candidate.
Note whom he doesn't talk about too...
Well, I've gone back and re-read everything, I have to say I am sooo conflicted as to who to vote. I see so many as suspicious but there are only 3 Mafia...trying to keep in mind there are also CI's and I sometimes get PRs as evils on my radar.
I tried to think about if I were Mafia, who would I turn...If I were CI who would I want. Just trying to figure out in my own mind, I don't think it is a good idea for us to list who we would turn and why IMO, that just gives the Mafia a advantage in their choices.
In going back I just keep going back and forth between Orge and Noodles as top. Then I come across things from Lucky that just make me go Hmmm, Now Dawg he has raised big time for me. I look at Rich and think I can see him as mafia too.
So now I have 5 ppl I'm looking at and only 3 can be Mafia, so my vote is going to the one that bothers me the most when reading their posts, which would be Orge and Noodles. I think to myself...Orge well I know I have played several games with him and was sure he was mafia only to be wrong, I think it is just his style really. I may kick myself later for this, but I vote to lynch Noodles.
This vote can and may change.
Ok, whatever you say Dawg...I twisted nothing in your words. Maybe you meant it a different way then it was worded or I took it, but I didn't twist any of your words.
Now it gets confusing. LadyG can see Dawg and rich as mafia, but votes noods... whom is highly suspected to be innocent by some noted athuorities.
Interesting,
so far we have Dawg and C-note and ogre and Noodles bashing each other.
Ogre is high on most peoples list and if he and noodles were a team noodles would need to leave him soon or he is going to go down. That and the fact that he always plays hard lightens any suspicions I have of him.
C-note has been on everyone for most of the game and seems solidly on dawg now. I still think he is being straight forward looking for a best vote.
I tend to think dawg is defending himself and not looking else where to help the team.
Noodles still worries me but she has not said much today to strengthen or lessens my ideas about her. I wonder if she will pull the vote off of Ogre?
I look forward to hearing more from everyone else.
Right now I would say Noodles, then dawg.
Check out the quote by rich.
I had a really crazy day at work so was not able to "play on the clock" LOL
I have no intention of pulling my vote off of Ogre at this point, and will not do so unless I see something that screams mafia before nightfall. If Ogre is so convinced he knows my role then I am compelled to believe he is the opposite, thus he must go. I have stated my case repeatedly on Ogre and do not feel I need to again.
Dawg is gaining lots of attention; definitely could be mafia. the past few games I have played with him I have been dead wrong each time. :huh:
C-note seems to kicking lots of bushes, especially dawg's right now. Is this a true attempt to find mafia or a smoke screen to cover his own rear?
Rich is making me very uneasy. Seems like to play the middle of the road and not make too many waves - definite blending....will certainly watch closely....
JL - that whole exchange w/ CJ befroe last nightfall was too weird, like a communiction slip up; and then the sarcastic response when I called him on; covering? very possible.
Lucky - :huh: has not been around too much but I do not feel him as threat - at this point; same w/ the rest of the list - don't really have feeling one way or the other on them....of course DD & LG are vets and need to be watched closely! LOL
I think this is where I start to think differently about noods. Of course, there's a lot of stuff between C-note and Dawg around this time too.
I may not be able to get back on until after nightfall. All depends on the small-fry.
If I don't make it... here's who I think are most likely mafia at this point.
Noods - though the possibility has decreased, but only slightly.
Rich - Jumped way up on the patented mafia-o-meter
Dawg/LadyG - something ain't right with these two. I am almost more concerned about LadyG's vote on Noods than I am on anything else. If Rich votes for noods too, then I don't know what I'll do.
My thoughts at the time.
I don't see what in my post caused such a reaction but that was the case.
I think dawg is acting suspiciously and I said so. I will write irt again for you mael. He is all over C-note and defending himself. He has done little for the rest of the town.
I believe he was in my 3. there are 3 mafia right now and I can have a list of three if I want too.
I was going to vote noodles but since Ogre reacted so badly I have only one choice at this point or not.
I vote to Lynch Noodles.
Dawg is acting suspiciously, but he votes noodles. Here's my problem, IF the mafia team sent in a recruitment on noodles, then why are they voting for her... unless it was random as suggested that by Ice.
It's kind of interesting...
I say absolutely not tonight because I will not be swayed by you at the last minute. Nearly everyone in this game has suspicious posts at one time or another but it's all about who really sets off your radar...not having a few suspicious posts. Why do I fail? Because I won't do your dirty work for you? Too bad!
You fail because you didn't answer my question.
Well since my vote doesn't count right now being on c-note and since he is also at the top of my list...
I retract my vote for c-note and I vote to lynch Ogre
If I am the one to go tonight Ithink it is pretty self explanatorywho I think the town should look at next.
Thanks for that by the wy.
Not much time, will explain later
I retract my vote on Lady G, and vote to lynch Ogre
Now what the?
Crap, there was another quote from noodles that said "I know what team I am on and Ogre isn't" or something to that effect. That's when I decided she wasn't totally mafia.
Lots of weirdness around here. It seems like nothing is consistent.
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