Mafia #51 - Mafia Citizens - The Play

I am here for now but will forewarn you guys, I have another meeting in about a half an hour and will be in that until at the very least 1:30. I read through last nights events and ouch!! I thought for sure that TRS was completely mucs with the way he was posting and remaining absent even when questioned and voted on.... sorry..... and ouch, Mad.... darnit... however, Mad was pumping hard trying to show us a good deal on Kash and I have to think that he was on to something. I don/t really know what else to think at the moment.... Plant, why are you making me the scapegoat... we have no time for chances right now and to vote me out would do us citizens in for good because of all the losses we've had so far. I think instead of hunches, we should continue to do our best and look for clues..... (not to mention of which this "hunch" plan to take out the least likely person to be recruited, should be chosen just might be yet another clue for you.... not sure, will have to look deeper into it when I get back)

for now, I vote to lynch Kash.... however, if I decide to change my vote, my most likely candidate will be Plant...
 
ZSandmann said:
Originally Posted by plantling
This game is a nightmare/soap opera. The good guys get taken in the middle of the nite and the lynched dead come back to life and u don't know what their alliance is when they come back. The only clue is their lynchwagon. The lynchwagon on TRS has two names that I distrust intensely, Zsand and Kash. Anyone wanna bet if TRS will be getting his wish to play longer?

For two days you have made comment after comment about it being a bad idea to vote Kash. Did you put your protection on her today or something?
Wrong, wrong, and wrong. I have not said it was a bad idea to vote for Kash, I have said I am reluctant to vote Kash because of the trains that lined up on here for two Days and the fact that her getting a PM does not de facto make her scum, she could very well be a Townie PR. Pull the posts if you want to warp what I say, don't throw something like this out without backing.
Here's night 1 voting again:
Nite 1 Final Votes
Kashta - TRS (10), Ice (96), bkw (107), Mad (108)
Maverick - Ice (44), ZS (149)
Rb - bkw (51), Coler (145)
Ice - dawg (58), Luvbugz (159)
DD - jpap (61), jbradt (131)
TRS - DD (65), Maverick (137)
cjt - ZS (101)
Mad - Zigman (123)
Dawg - Rb (160)
Zigman - plant (176), cjt (178), Coler (180), Rb (190), Kash (197)

The protections had to be submitted before nitefall for the following day so since this was nite 1 I'm not sure that JL would allow either team to turn in their protection in the last hour of the day. It would be totally UNFAIR, JL if u did. And you guys would have to trust me that I know nothing about a protection on Zigman even though I was first on him so I would have to guess that Bala has brought Zigman back. Hopefully he is a Townie still.

So now we must vote who we think is most likely NOT to have been picked out by the Rebels for protection and it would be a boon if they were also a Rebel. To get discussions going as we have to start somewhere, I will place a vote on who I think fits the above description. Subject to change as we also have good pr's out there somewhere,

I vote to lynch DangerDoll.

She has very little posts, was on TRL both nights in a row, and her answers to Mad about Kashta were a bit noncommital.
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So after trying to run me on a rail you vote DD, because you don't think she would be protected by the Rebels. Not the best reason to vote for someone IMO. I really expected my name to be bolded right there.


That's the reason I retracted, there needs to be some serious discussion, as with all the ways to die, come back, and flip sides I am not sure I trust any of my instincts on who is who in this game. Reminds me of a Viles game. That said, I may be way off on my list of suspects, but some of you have the reading comprehension of turnips. Or at least appear that way to try and turn folks against the more outspoken of us.
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Well if some ppl would not type within quotes it would be easier to reply but i will work with what I have to. About pulling up your posts, I believe both myself and Mad have pulled up plenty of them and pointed out what you tried to say but you have denied what you have implied. I welcome all to look at your post themselves and decide for themselves. As for the comment about our reading comprehensions, I believe Mad and I comprehended you just fine and perhaps it was Mad's outspokenness that got him hit. Did you get tired of answering his questions, Z or did u think he was a power role?

As far as doing what you expect me to do that's exactly my point. I want to do something you don't expect in case you have protections on yourself or Kashta.
 
Dangerdoll said:
I am here for now but will forewarn you guys, I have another meeting in about a half an hour and will be in that until at the very least 1:30. I read through last nights events and ouch!! I thought for sure that TRS was completely mucs with the way he was posting and remaining absent even when questioned and voted on.... sorry..... and ouch, Mad.... darnit... however, Mad was pumping hard trying to show us a good deal on Kash and I have to think that he was on to something. I don/t really know what else to think at the moment.... Plant, why are you making me the scapegoat... we have no time for chances right now and to vote me out would do us citizens in for good because of all the losses we've had so far. I think instead of hunches, we should continue to do our best and look for clues..... (not to mention of which this "hunch" plan to take out the least likely person to be recruited, should be chosen just might be yet another clue for you.... not sure, will have to look deeper into it when I get back)

for now, I vote to lynch Kash.... however, if I decide to change my vote, my most likely candidate will be Plant...
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You aren't the least bit concerned that ZSand has already stated a wish to vote out Kash today after two days of hisitation? Sounds to me like he may have put a protection on her. And he was the first vote on TRS also and I have a feeling votes were pushed that way for a reason. Don't be surprised if TRS comes back from the dead not a vanilla citizen.
 
Okie Dokie Plant, I've reread my posts and they still seem to say the same things I meant for them to say. You can see evil in anyone if you try hard enough so just keep squinting. I expect to be grilled today since, like I said yesterday, I was first on Red. But show me where Red said anything helpful for us? He accused Mods and players of cheating and communicating, and asked for them to check his PMs. And then he suddenly forgot how the game is played. I'm trying real hard to not be all OMGUSy right now but you are really making me want to drop a vote your way.
 
plantling said:
You aren't the least bit concerned that ZSand has already stated a wish to vote out Kash today after two days of hisitation? Sounds to me like he may have put a protection on her. And he was the first vote on TRS also and I have a feeling votes were pushed that way for a reason. Don't be surprised if TRS comes back from the dead not a vanilla citizen.
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I already said my time is very sparce through 1:30

nice, looks to me like you might be leaving the very clues you accuse others of doing..... is this how you are letting your guys know who to protect?
 
I am also very displeased w/the lack of participation in this game. It makes it that much harder to sort out the innocent townies from the rebels. And plz nor more UD's. Perhaps don't sign up if u can't play, eh?
 
plantling said:
I am also very displeased w/the lack of participation in this game. It makes it that much harder to sort out the innocent townies from the rebels. And plz nor more UD's. Perhaps don't sign up if u can't play, eh?
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A point I agree with you on, but I think participation has been pretty good except for a few lurkers. CJ in particular, who I see lurking right now, needs to step it up. I'm still giving Maverick a bit of a pass because of his dog.
 
ZSandmann said:
Okie Dokie Plant, I've reread my posts and they still seem to say the same things I meant for them to say. You can see evil in anyone if you try hard enough so just keep squinting. I expect to be grilled today since, like I said yesterday, I was first on Red. But show me where Red said anything helpful for us? He accused Mods and players of cheating and communicating, and asked for them to check his PMs. And then he suddenly forgot how the game is played. I'm trying real hard to not be all OMGUSy right now but you are really making me want to drop a vote your way.
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As someone has said a bad player does not make for an automatic Rebel. But I can see how the rebels will exploit the heck out of someones noobiness. And nah I don't have to squint to see your mucsiness, ZSand. If others would take off their blinders they might see it too.
 
Dangerdoll said:
I already said my time is very sparce through 1:30

nice, looks to me like you might be leaving the very clues you accuse others of doing..... is this how you are letting your guys know who to protect?
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Perhaps when you have time u should look at the rules again. The protections for today's lynchings needed to have come out b4 nitefall last nite. It would be too late to leave clues on who to protect.
 
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