Mafia 62- The Play

LOL... to me if there's not an electric guitar in it, it's classical... :D
 
Not fighting to defend yourself there Z...guilty conscience?

An acceptable answer.

No but I do have a pembroke welsh corgi named Pandora.

Winner!

What is this I don't even... is this a concession?

I've been training my corgi for several months now, I've mentioned it in past games I am sure.

I feel I've dug, but my posts will bear that out more than my words here. What I haven't done and don't do is post mine. JB in particular has a style where he pulls every post a person made in game to make a point, but that just adds more to wade through IMO, so while I certainly reread stuff I only post when I have something new to add to the conversation.

That said I don't mind being lynched to move things along but Zaffy is clearly, at least to me, playing a strange game and therefore I will vote him again if Mich is truly out as I think he is.

As if, Zaffy is such a Koontz reader :lipssealedsmilie:


If I had to get inside Noods head, I imagine a pink room with a white bed with My Little Pony sheets, I'd say that was a shot at me on the way out.

Assuming Mich is dead

I vote to lynch Zaffy

Of course for all I know the game is over, Annie where ya at?

My assumption was that she was using her after death post to lodge a compalint, I believe someone , pappy? agreed with me.

I do read quickly, thanks, but honestly what more is there to be said? Yay, Razz was scum (duh?).
Yay, the Doc is an All-Star.
Mich is weird.
It's me and Zaffy for the next Night.
At at peace with all this.

That just sounds soooooo hollow...
 
Ok, got through the first 440 posts...

Fifth.

Yay, the game started! Darn, Strawberry Cheesecake again :P

I hate to say it Z, and I know I used it against you last game (in an evil way), but when I first read this my first thought was it was scummy. I know it's a joke but now I can't help but wonder if you were messing with us.

My list is

Zaffy - First vote
Razz - For not posting yet :P
Ice - For being alive
Lab Rat - For snaowing everyone last round
Also, The new guys
I know it's the beginning of the game. Would it be too early for a distancing jab with Razz? Also, Zaffy is mentioned, so if there are two mafia left then this could be distancing also.


Zaffy, no read
JL, no read
Zsand - suspicious as we have not had a "question" yet and it is almost the end of day one!
Razz, no read yet.
I cut down the post to just know mafia and suspected scum.

I have not recieved a PM stating as much.

Dawg-0- Zaffy(#28)
Rich-0- ZS(#42)
Alex-0- Lab(#45)
Kash-0- Rich(#46)
Lab-3- JB(#47), JL(#139), Noods(#150), JL(#162), Dawg(#165)
Razz-0- Ag(#48)
Ice-0- Jpap(#53), Kash(#168)
Zaffy-0- Ice(#55)
JL-1- Mich(#57), Ag(#67)
Noods-0- Dawg(#66)
Ag-7- Ice(#70), Razz(#71), ZS(#147), Jpap(#157), Rich(#181), Kash(#200), DD(#203)
DD-0- Noods(#78)
Jpap-4- Zaffy(#109), Labby(#155), JB(#158), Ag(#189)

No vote from Alex.
Day 1 vote, with mafia and suspected mafia bolded

I'm game, no order:

Mich: yes, a newbie, but asking an Innocent to die seems contradictory to common sense. Based on the way the last game went down no one gets a pass from me.

Noodles: Yeah she doesn't seem to have her head in the game, generally skimmy. I don't really get how the book would influence her play either.

JL: Nothing solid at all but he flew into the game like he had something to prove, definitely making waves with Lab and others.

Ice: Kash was on Ice pretty hard towards the end of Day 1. To Hit her draws attention but then we get into WIFOM of if he'd risk it and I could see Ice doing it.


DAY TWO


Jpap-0- Lab(#231)
Lab-6- JL(#243), Jpap(#252), Noods(#257), Ice(#310), ZS(#322), Noods(#327), Razz(#330)
Ice-2- Dawg(#320), Mich(#392)
ZS-1- Zaffy(#350)
Noods-2- Lab(#365), JB(#369)

No vote from DD, and Rich


NIGHTFALL IN NINE HOURS TWENTY MINUTES

PM'S AS REQUIRED

Yeah Mich is playing a weird Noob game... Looking at how the votes are stacked I have to wonder where the Mafia are at. I suspect there are 4-5 based on starting numbers. DD and Rich haven't voted. Even if DD and rich were BOTH Mafia there still have to be 2-3 Mafia on Lab right now... Something doesn't add up. This should make Tonight more interesting, I will be interested to see where the others votes fall.

I retract my vote for Lab and vote to lynch Noods.

*gasp* et tu brutus? :thud:
That sequence just bugs the hell out of me.

So far, I've not found much scummy on Z. He has not been super active, but what he's posted has seemed pro town. A couple little things are bugging me, but if he's mafia, he's doing a good job laying low.

Back to the next 600+ posts...
 
All really good points Labby. I was thinking about why Z would jump on Noods like he did. I can see reasons why he would do it. Maybe he got a tingle that she was the snitch and thought it was worth putting her on the line. Maybe it was a risky distancing move. I'm not saying I know what was going on, I'm just saying it seems like a reasonable thing for a mafium to do.

I've been going back and reading Z's posts. I originally had a bunch of stuff copied, but then it seemed redundant at this point. Plus, I'd hate to make you "wade through" all the stuff you said. What I can say is that I see some inconsistancies.

You say that you only post when you have something to say, but I see a lot of fluff in your posts. Lots of jokes about SK books, etc. I don't like that you actively defend your low posting AND post stuff that is arguably just to buffer your post count so you're not at the bottom of the list.

You said that your posts would show how much digging you were doing. The digging I see is Zaffy, Mich and Ag based. I didn't see you really questioning anyone else. Two of these three are confirmed innocents and you're still working hard to get Zaffy lynched. This makes me think there's a good chance Z is the last mafia. I'm interested to see how DD votes.

There are other things, but I can't think of them at the moment. What can I say, if you're innocent, you've had a really bad game.

What can I say, Z... if you're innocent, you've had a bad game.
 
The Snitch List...........
Noods
JL

ZS
Razz
.
Noods, it was ballsy if you went 4/4 mafia on your list...


Did noods cry, hear comes a train, just after getting one vote from Lab_Rat? Or did she have two whole votes. Something just does not seem right.

I smell a rat. How was Lab cleared? By being the first vote on noods? I am trying to figure what Lab did not to be a suspect. I am not trying to be just focused on Lab_Rat, but something is bothering me here.

I know that noods is no good at being evil, but this meltdown doesn't add up. She was on a few suspects lists, but this seems just over the top.

Does the Don have powers that the goons don't have? Was this a way to protect the Don? I need to check the rules.

I also don't get the hit on Rich.
Now that he's been exposed as Don, this post made me :rofl:


If she knew she was done for then why would she put a 2nd mafia on it. I think she put her own name on it because she knew she was done with.

I have not read anywhere that says the snitch could not put their own name as the one mafia member.

I might feel differently if my name was not on the list.
Or the names of the rest of your teammates???


Actually since she posted she tried to make a revision its possible she tried to send in a new note without Razz on it and wasn't able to do so.

In either case most would think that only 1 mafia would be on the list and not waste time lynching the rest.
What is interesting is that 3 of the names on the list weren't voting Noods and are on my list of possible mafia.

If we would hardly consider 2 on the list what are the odds we'd consider 3 on the list? Are you the 3rd on the list JL?
Yeah, I'm thinking all 4 may have been listed

My thought on the Snitch List is 1) I hate them because they make you double think your suspects based on little real information 2) That based on the after death post coupled with Noods list my supposition is that Noods named herself when Lab was leading, once she took the lead she tried to change it but got stuck by Annie's wardrobe malfunction. What that means for the name's I am still uncertain.


The Snitch has never been a non-communicating Mafium, we all misread the rules, but this seems out-of-character for you Dawg.


Thank you! Someone else finally sees what I am talking about. Zaffy is playing with the tenacity that they have solid info but all they are doing is voting a singleton vote to not have to commit to a lynching. It is me in this case, but any singleton vote should send alarm bells up.

Noods really did it for me right in those last few hours before Nightfall. She plays a lot like Mee-Mee used to IMO, she's tough when Innocent, but when she is Mafia she doesn't handlevotes on herself very well and self-destructs. Up till then I would have happily kept my vote on Lab till Nightfall.
Is that why you flipped your vote from me? You saw your teammate self destructing?

A nice clean post, my list sits as follows:

Zaffy: singleton votes, a crazy theory, not looking for other suspects, OMGUS?
Dawg: Skimming more than Dawg does, scattered thoughts, gut feel?
Razz: Seemed to defend Noods, tried to strangely tie Rich to Noods, overall not vero "Pro-Town"

I'm not sure those are in any real order. Zaffy's behavior is certainly the most peculiar of the three, although I feel I could vote any of them, maybe Dawg slightly less so?

I vote to lynch Zaffy

DAY THREE

Razz-3- Ice(#459), Jpap(#505), Lab(#516)
Ice-0- Dawg(#482)
Lab-1- Razz(#501)
ZS-1- Zaffy(#510)
Dawg-3- JB(#552), JL(#569), DD(#571)
JB-1- Dawg(#555)
Zaffy-1- ZS(#564)

No vote from Mich

NIGHTFALL IN 5HRS 33MINS

PM'S AS REQUIRED

I noticed the et tu brute comment when it was posted. It gave me that same little tickle I got last game from Labby's avatar and response to the suspense joke. Hmmmm....
It's bugging me even more now...

Yeah I really feel Zaff is Mafia (or insane) but a singleton vote is a singleton vote so I am going to change. Dawg and Razz are both suspects on my list, and both are now in defensive mode, so I'm trying to catch up and see who is twisting more.

I figured Noods little comment was a jab at me on the way out to add suspicion. The Snitch is still Mafium, so if I were on her team she still wouldn't want to out me. She'd get a big kick out of being the one to get the Town to lynch me.
That's what you'd want us to think...

I think that noods wanted to die. I think atleast one of her teamates voted her and it was part of their plan.
Don't know whether this is true or not now...

I am fairly sure that noods had votes on her from mafia and it was their intention for her to get lynched.
He says it again...
I still think Zaffy is a better choice than Razz, and would be reluctant to join a train on Razz so soon after Night.

I vote to lynch Zaffy.

Maybe now Zaff has some idea who else I am on the Oprah book club list with.
Maybe he does...Zaffy, have you been able to come up with a real case against Zs?

O' come on Ice and Jpap, starting a train already!?!? As of now Zaffy is my top suspect but Jpap, now knowing your role make you second in my mind.
Is Razz trying to distance himself from Zaffy or trying to lynch an innocent, or neither? Was it just desperation?

Yes, but I feel more confident about you being mafia than I do about anyone except Zaffy. Just so that I don't get drilled here too. This is my list in order.

Mafia
Zaffy
Jpap
Everyone else
Ice and Me
Innocent
Again, distancing or just trying to save his own butt?

Since people don't like me this game, I'll play too if that's alright.

My 3 scum are Razz, DD, Mich. Then comes JB, Zsand, Jpap, Lab, Ice, Me.

In that order.
Zaffy, you voted Zs the previous two nights. Why did DD, Mich, and JB suddenly jump in front of Zs for suspicions?


:hypnotized: Skimmed the entire thread. Zs has flown WAY under the radar, the only one who has even kicked around the bushes at him was Zaffy. JL didn't lay into him at all, while he laid into many of the rest of us. JL also didn't lay into Noods (though he did kick around a little bit at her). He didn't at Razz either.

Zs has made enough neutral, pro-town seeming posts that I don't think he registered as scummy to anyone (except Zaffy). The problem is, the posts he's made don't have a whole ton of content. Fluffy without being too fluffy. Kind of hollowish. Very neutral, not causing any waves. I'd quote them, then I'd unquote them because I couldn't find scummy things with them. But not a whole lot of content. I also find his rapid skimming tonight after the lynch and his lack of defending himself very odd.
 
All really good points Labby. I was thinking about why Z would jump on Noods like he did. I can see reasons why he would do it. Maybe he got a tingle that she was the snitch and thought it was worth putting her on the line. Maybe it was a risky distancing move. I'm not saying I know what was going on, I'm just saying it seems like a reasonable thing for a mafium to do.

I've been going back and reading Z's posts. I originally had a bunch of stuff copied, but then it seemed redundant at this point. Plus, I'd hate to make you "wade through" all the stuff you said. What I can say is that I see some inconsistancies.

You say that you only post when you have something to say, but I see a lot of fluff in your posts. Lots of jokes about SK books, etc. I don't like that you actively defend your low posting AND post stuff that is arguably just to buffer your post count so you're not at the bottom of the list.

You said that your posts would show how much digging you were doing. The digging I see is Zaffy, Mich and Ag based. I didn't see you really questioning anyone else. Two of these three are confirmed innocents and you're still working hard to get Zaffy lynched. This makes me think there's a good chance Z is the last mafia. I'm interested to see how DD votes.

There are other things, but I can't think of them at the moment. What can I say, if you're innocent, you've had a really bad game.

What can I say, Z... if you're innocent, you've had a bad game.

Z, if you're mafia, you've had an awesome game. You've snaowed us all...freaking strawberry cheesecake...

I'm going to bed.
 
I don't want to go through all the posts but wanted to get some ideas out there.

A nice clean post, my list sits as follows:

Zaffy: singleton votes, a crazy theory, not looking for other suspects, OMGUS?
Dawg: Skimming more than Dawg does, scattered thoughts, gut feel?
Razz: Seemed to defend Noods, tried to strangely tie Rich to Noods, overall not vero "Pro-Town"

I'm not sure those are in any real order. Zaffy's behavior is certainly the most peculiar of the three, although I feel I could vote any of them, maybe Dawg slightly less so?

I vote to lynch Zaffy

Here's a list of his^

It might be very Ice-ish of me but I retract my vote for Zaffy and vote to lynch Dawg.

As far as justification goes, I have both on my Mafia list, and ties make for interesting occurances near Night.

Razz is playing poorly, but did they play much better last round? Dawg on the other hand is playing badly but we all know Dawg can play very well. That edges Dawg just a bit above Razz in my opinion. We have the "flubs" (thanks DD) and the lack of bush-kicking since he became a major suspect.

Backs off Razz a bit there, justifying his poor game play because of last round and turning around on Dawg because of his game play.

The fact that mich has voted dawg has me concerned. I understand what dawg was saying about Ag coming out as the detective, that the doc could have protected him on later night hits, that it would not have meant suicide and it would have been better than getting lynched.

I retract my vote on dawg.

I also don't think razz is mafia based on the snitch list.

My top suspects at this point are Mich, DD and Jb.

I vote to lynch Jb.

I know this is a lone vote, but I am not willing to vote for either of the two leaders.

Here's when JL started acting scummy.

Well that's interesting.

Z's comment.

Well my vote on jb is of no value.

I retract my vote on jb.

I vote to lynch Dawg.

That should atleast make it interesting.

JL continues to act scummy. By this time quite a few people (JB, Lab, Ice, and myself) had already started questioning JL's behavior.

Maybe I'm incorrect but I thought in the past you were one to always advocate taking a tie to the lynch. Am I misremembering?



Way to commit.


Weirdest Nightfall in a while...

Here are Zs' posts before nightfall. One is just to other players and the next is a vague comment about what had gone down. Nothing about JL, which makes sense since no one knew he was going to be hit.

I still think Zaffy is a better choice than Razz, and would be reluctant to join a train on Razz so soon after Night.

I vote to lynch Zaffy.

Maybe now Zaff has some idea who else I am on the Oprah book club list with.

The bolded part worries me...a lot actually. I thought it was pretty obvious that JL was pulling something by switching off and on Dawg when Razz was up against him. Zs had Razz as a suspect but this is now the second time where he is worried about voting him.


If it weren't for the vote on Noods I would be very comfortable with my vote on Z. For now I think it's best to just keep it close and see what happens.
 
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