Analysis of Ice - day one to now.
First post of any note : post 55. Earlier enquiry as to how many mafia there in fact are.
Then post 88 - quotes three of us, one by clown lover (re numbers of mafia), one by me, ice hints at me being mafia for posting about a mafia 101 strategystrategy , one by joander, ice says that joander has made the classic mafia slip up.
Comment : This 'classic mafia newbie slip-up' has only ever been related back to cory lover in game 4...it is not a 'classic' mafia newbie slip-up.
Okay not classic,poor choice of words. I believe you also called it classic though didn't you later on?
Then post 95: Note naming CL and Joander...and me too btw lol (check my earlier post for who first put CL and Joander together...I may have missed this post by Ice in that regard)
We're talking what a few hours into the game? Have to put names out there to get reactions. I didn't trust you at that time.I even stated in post 55 I thought you possible mafia.
There is then some innocuous posting concerning how many mafia there are (ice thought there were 22 players at one point, no big deal, I think), also advice to new players to post nothing with a 'mafia vibe' as it will make us think they're mafia. Some comment about the roles being completely random (Ice was detective last game)
So trying to help the less experienced innocents along in the game is a mafia ploy now?
Then this : post 164 : Flattering for me,
but my 'list' was not a list at that stage. It was an analysis of joander, sploke and i think dangerdoll :
LOL it has multiple names correct? Its a list. What else would you call it?
Adopting someone elses position, if they have named an innocent, is a mafia tactic - it means the mafia can divorce him/her self from the innocent lynch in due course.
So only the 1st person to make an assumption on somebody is innocent and anyone that agrees is mafia?
Now, look at my post - not a list at all. Its post 157
Here in fact is a list I posted earlier than the above post (at post 107) :
Note presence of Judge, Dangerdoll. Ice did not like this list as much as my analysis of three players though.
I hadn't seen anything from JM or DD at the time to think they were mafia. By post 157 I had already threw my suspicion of JP into the ring because of his post 128.
We then see Ice again at post 191...focusing on Sploke...analysed by me, my analysis adopted by Ice as a list
LOL again you're thinking to highly of yourself buddy. I was answering a quote from sploke from a statement he made in post 175
Post 211 Talking to Clown Lover...says outright that he may switch to put Clown Lover over the top. This is what in fact happened :
I started thinking that Jo had just misposted and wasn't actually mafia. Clown looked more mafia to me at the time. Harping on roles and numbers, looked to me like he was trying to confuse people.
In post 237 I stated I only have 12 hours to make a decision, I was trying to find the one that looked most mafia. I may have done a lot of leaning on people,namely you, but I didn't have the luxury of watching for most of what was going to happen the next day. If my last job had taken 15 minutes longer I wouldn't even have been able to switch my vote. I did a quick skim,seen a lot of Jo might be innocent which I was thinking all day. Seen some Clown votes and switched hoping that everyone was correct.
Remember JM's slightly extreme reaction to being called mafia early in the game 'see if I play with y'all'. This is Ice's response at post 239
HN called Ice on this, said he was defending a mafia. Ice said he typed as HN's prior post accusing of drama, so couldn't be a defence. Maybe. Could be a caution though...bkw did similar, see my post re JM.
I type with 2 fingers lol, I'm not throwing 60 wpm out there. I then have to proofread my response.
I posted at 8:00 in response to JMs 7:40 post. Then had to read 3 other posts before posting my next post, HN fell in between those 3 and my "defense" of JM
Posts his own list at 285 :
Didn't feel as strong about Jo at that point but no one had convinced me otherwise so my vote stayed on him. The other 2 I still feel the same about. Though I was wrong about Clown after all
post 301 is a nothing post. Says he thinks Ogre needs watchin...Coler is probably innocent...HN also
The final vote for Clown Lover : post 382.
Already stated it was a last second time running out switch. At that point I had all day to think about it without having to sort thru numerous posts. Concluded that Clown seemed more mafia,a quick skim thru the posts confirmed others though the same. I didn't want to lynch an innocent.
Note : Jpappy was Ice's second suspect Clown was his third, going by his own list see above EDIT : I notice he named three in no particular order, in fairness. EDIT
I posted the sequence of the last votes for CL - Jensons, then me, then ice votes and I retract mine simultaneously. My post didn't say I set a trap. In fact, it wasn't much of a trap to make Mafia vote Clown Lover in the end as it was a vote for Clown Lover who was innocent, thankfully I pulled it before night. However Ice reacted by saying he hadn't fallen into a trap as he voted as I withdrew mine. But my vote was actually intended to see if people would defend Clown Lover, which didn't happen.
We have to check to see if Clown Lover was ended by Ice's vote
My thought was it was insinuated. By the same account we could assume you were guilty of NOT voting to protect J
r that you were mafia and trying to get clown voted off,then pulling last second so that your name doesn't appear on the list thus distancing yourself.
Post 428 Ice talks about people not voting - ZS & HN...says this is dodgy. Says Mee-Mee's vote made no sense (it didn't : ' I vote for malbri because Joander has most votes' ??)
Post 440 & 439 Ice says the PM thing is a red-herring - it is/could be. I got one after night fell because I stupidly posted during night time and RB deleted my post - so I got the usual automated deletion pm. Similar at 443.
And that, boys and girls, is my audit of Ice. Does anyone think it gives him a case to answer ?
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